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Post by Melifeather on Jun 1, 2016 1:34:22 GMT
I haven't begun work on Cat O the Canals yet, but I have an inkling that this chapter is about "someone" living with the Mormont women. I'm torn between Lyanna and Ashara. Just a thought, but if anything is mirroring Bear Island it's Braavos. I've got to get the Reaver chapter done first, but maybe somebody would be interested in re-reading the Cat of the Canals chapter and look for parallels to Bear Island? Any takers?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 1, 2016 10:26:55 GMT
maybe somebody would be interested in re-reading the Cat of the Canals chapter and look for parallels to Bear Island? Any takers?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 1, 2016 11:23:05 GMT
I've already started, I'll make a thread over in the re-read area for now, if anyone wants to join me.
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Post by alienarea on Jun 2, 2016 20:52:57 GMT
Just read most of the thread. Lots of interesting theories.
I don't believe the Mance = Rhaegar theory, or any presumed dead people hiding in plain sight because we already had too many resurrections in the story. So nobody died except Ned?
However, I have an idea about the Mormonts snd why we don't have a family tree and they are loyal to the Starks:
Jeor - Jorah - Joramun
They are descendants of Joramun, and helped defeat the Night's King. And they are of wildling origin.
Also: Mance and the red silk - from a Mormont trade?
Maybe the Mormonts have always been slave traders, it was ok as long as they enslaved wildlings, and this was one of the things Ned wasn't told and he fucked up?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 2, 2016 20:57:09 GMT
Jeor - Jorah - Joramun They are descendants of Joramun, and helped defeat the Night's King. And they are of wildling origin. Also: Mance and the red silk - from a Mormont trade? Maybe the Mormonts have always been slave traders, it was ok as long as they enslaved wildlings, and this was one of the things Ned wasn't told and he fucked up? I'm always on the lookout for a connection between Jorah and a horn... great topic there. And over at the Cat of the Canals thread, I see lots of evidence in that chapter that the Mormonts were very involved with trade (both illicit and not) between Essos and Beyond the Wall.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 2, 2016 22:30:25 GMT
However, I have an idea about the Mormonts snd why we don't have a family tree and they are loyal to the Starks: Jeor - Jorah - Joramun They are descendants of Joramun, and helped defeat the Night's King. And they are of wildling origin. Also: Mance and the red silk - from a Mormont trade? Maybe the Mormonts have always been slave traders, it was ok as long as they enslaved wildlings, and this was one of the things Ned wasn't told and he fucked up? Me likey. Velly velly interesting. Going to mull on this!
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Post by min on Nov 20, 2016 19:12:07 GMT
LongclawSupposedly the ancestral sword of House Mormont Valyrian steel that has been in their possession for 500 years....this means pre-Doom. How/where did this tiny vassal house on a remote island of the North get it? Bastard/hand-and-a-half sword - Valyrian steel swords in Westeros are themselves pretty rare, but I'm guessing bastard swords are even MOAR rare. In fact, series-wide, we only know of one other....whereabouts currently unknown. So despite trying to impress his moneygrubbing second wife with gold and jewels and then later selling everything but the clothes on his back to buy her happiness, Jorah then leaves behind this very rare and very valuable sword when he flees to Lys with the little woman. Seems legit. Oh, and then the sister of the man who has now abdicated leadership of House Mormont entirely and forever, the sister who is now Lord/Lady of House Mormont in her own right, returns the damn sword to him at Castle Black instead of keeping it to pass down to one of her bear-warrior daughters who deserves to wield it? And THEN, after squirreling this sword away after X years because he just can't bear to look at it, LC Jeor pulls it out of Castle Black cold storage, cleans it up, and gives it to his new personally-selected steward?? You might find this discussion at W concerning the swords interesting: asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/144256-lets-figure-out-the-mormonts/&page=1Is it possible that Longclaw went with another Mormont to the Wall previous to Joer? Jon calls it a "great bastard sword". Any great bastards in the Mormont line? There is a Jorah Stark buried in the crypts of Winterfell. According to Bran some of the Kings of Winter had done terrible things.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Nov 20, 2016 19:35:57 GMT
I read the first couple of pages a while back, but need to finish the thread when my head is clear. Stupid cold! Agree that there is something up with the sword and Jeor is a caretaker of it in some capacity.
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