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Post by Melifeather on Jun 29, 2018 14:41:37 GMT
TOJ: All 3 KG are slain. Tent: All 3 BRs are slain. Based on the fact that all three blood riders died, and that everything else seems to be an inversion, I tend to believe that the 3 Kingsguard did not die at the tower of joy.
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Post by essosiwatch on Jul 1, 2018 3:18:22 GMT
The tent: The mother lives, her child doesn't.
TOJ: The child survived, the mother didn't.
Also MMD calls Dany "Silver Lady". As opposite to "Silver Prince".
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 10, 2018 18:37:45 GMT
Since we're on the subject of inversions....Mirri kind of sorta resurrected Drogo. He didn't really die, but he certainly was not himself. Is it just possible that Rhaegar was successfully resurrected, but his appearance changed and he's now living as Mance?
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Post by essosiwatch on Jul 11, 2018 12:50:33 GMT
...Mirri kind of sorta resurrected Drogo. He didn't really die, but he certainly was not himself. My theory: Mirri is echo of A Maester. Maz Duur. Master. (Like Hodor/Hold the Door). Drogo didn't in fact die but could not be considered himself. Inversion of it would have been: He was considered himself but he in fact died. I'm of the belief that that's what happened. Rhaegar was beyond repair and someone gave him the gift of mercy. We have something similar described in the history of Ironborn, I don't remember where exactly but I can try and look it up. As for "He was considered himself", I believe someone wore his armor at the Trident but it wasn't Rhaegar. Like Tyrell (rose) wearing Renly's (wannabe king) armor. And the Winged Knight from Vale, he used this trick, too. And the corpse of Cleon the Butcher was dressed in his armor while he was already dead. This motif is repeated at least three times. I think Rhaegar said his farewell to Jaime and went to Lyanna of the Tower first. Something happened and he was injured/infected. Someone wore his armor, fought at Trident and was badly injured, too. Maybe the Maester suggested the swap, or maybe the Maester later killed Rhaegar/Lyanna out of mercy (Osha and Luwin, a maester and a spearwife, inversed, he even asks her to be put to rest at a particular place).
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 11, 2018 20:37:58 GMT
...Mirri kind of sorta resurrected Drogo. He didn't really die, but he certainly was not himself. My theory: Mirri is echo of A Maester. Maz Duur. Master. (Like Hodor/Hold the Door). Drogo didn't in fact die but could not be considered himself. Inversion of it would have been: He was considered himself but he in fact died. I'm of the belief that that's what happened. Rhaegar was beyond repair and someone gave him the gift of mercy. We have something similar described in the history of Ironborn, I don't remember where exactly but I can try and look it up. As for "He was considered himself", I believe someone wore his armor at the Trident but it wasn't Rhaegar. Like Tyrell (rose) wearing Renly's (wannabe king) armor. And the Winged Knight from Vale, he used this trick, too. And the corpse of Cleon the Butcher was dressed in his armor while he was already dead. This motif is repeated at least three times. I think Rhaegar said his farewell to Jaime and went to Lyanna of the Tower first. Something happened and he was injured/infected. Someone wore his armor, fought at Trident and was badly injured, too. Maybe the Maester suggested the swap, or maybe the Maester later killed Rhaegar/Lyanna out of mercy (Osha and Luwin, a maester and a spearwife, inversed, he even asks her to be put to rest at a particular place). I've recently reread the Dunk and Egg novellas and was struck by how similar the events are to those in ASOIAF. Funnily enough, Seams (on Westeros) also performed a reread and provided an analysis in the reread section that I am now working my way through. I reached a part that I had forgotten about, but that I had visited a few years back on the topic of "Bael", and how I thought Rhaegar fulfilled the role of Bael by stealing Lyanna, which later developed into believing that Mance was Rhaegar. Over the years I've explored other theories, but Seams's thread has reignited my belief that Mance is Rhaegar. Two Targaryen kings were named Baelor. Both negotiated alliances with Dorne. Rhaegar married Elia of Dorne. Rhaegar loved singing songs and playing his harp like Bael the Bard. The references and symbolism of all the mentions of Baelor in The Hedge Knight and The Sworn Sword apply to both Rhaegar and Bael. Rather than running Some Pig's thread here off the rails, why don't you take a look at Seam's thread, and then read my comments. There's a lot to go over, and we're just now getting into the meat. In a nutshell Dunk and Egg went to Dorne - like Ned and Howland. Dunk was searching for Tanselle the puppet master, while Ned presumably was searching for Lyanna. You can read Dunk's dream if you do your own reread, or you can read it here.
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Post by Stormborn13 on Jul 8, 2020 1:27:47 GMT
Drogo (Men/Dany's lover) + Rhaego (Men/Dany's son) = Lyanna (Woman/Rhaegar's lover) + Dany (Woman/Rhaegar's daughter)
Its a mirror
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 8, 2020 15:51:49 GMT
Drogo (Men/Dany's lover) + Rhaego (Men/Dany's son) = Lyanna (Woman/Rhaegar's lover) + Dany (Woman/Rhaegar's daughter) Its a mirror Hmm. I don't follow your logic. Daenerys is the common denominator with Drogo and Rhaego and Rhaego is obviously their child. Your example of Rhaegar as the common denominator with Lyanna and Daenerys is not a mirror unless you're saying Daenerys is the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna? There's no reason to doubt that Daenerys is the child of Aerys and Rhaella, especially considering that she is their third child to make it to adulthood, fulfilling the "child of three", as well as in fulfillment of the prophecy that the Prince that was Promised would be of Aerys and Rhaella's line. I also came upon a passage relevant to the PtwP, but not necessarily in relationship to your proposal...I just thought it interesting, because it connects the Prince that was Promised with the War for the Dawn AND Azor Ahai:
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