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Post by Melifeather on May 23, 2016 2:49:57 GMT
I feel it's a bad thing Sansa didn't tell Jon about Littlefinger and the Vale...she should still make common cause with the Vale and kill Littlefinger. Yeah, I thought that too. Why does she not want them to know Littlefinger was there? Is she worried they'd kill him outright if they knew? She's definitely playing some sort of game, I just hope she's ready. There's no way Meera can pull Bran anywhere safe. Where can she possibly take him? If they can make it, they'd have to get behind the Wall. And they don't even have Craster's Keep to help them out, since the wives burned it down in the show. I feel like Meera will have to find Bran another hearttree, but if they knew exactly where he was, there's really no place for him to hide. Wasn't it creepy how they crawled along the walls and ceiling of the cave? *shivers* Sansa doesn't trust Littlefinger, that's why she doesn't want his help. I was glad to hear they brought up the Manderlys. We haven't seen Lord Too-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse.
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Post by Melifeather on May 23, 2016 2:52:24 GMT
It was the Children what made the Others! and I let out a whoop for Black Crow! Are you sure that's what he's preaching? He thinks the Children are creepy meat eaters out to double cross Bran, but I don't think he believes the Children are behind the walkers. IIRC he thinks there's a separate entity behind the Three Eyed Crow other than Bloodraven.
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 23, 2016 2:56:53 GMT
And speaking of the creepy crawler wights, anyone else notice that the 'fireball' Leaf uses turns ice blue before it exploded? What the hell is that about?
Oh and now we have Sam the Slayer, Jon the Slayer and Meera the Slayer! Only three to kill the Others so far. No connection there, right?
The Others are down to 10 now.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:58:09 GMT
Is anyone else thinking Bran is going to change something in the TOJ with his powers?
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 23, 2016 2:59:02 GMT
Are you sure that's what he's preaching? He thinks the Children are creepy meat eaters out to double cross Bran, but I don't think he believes the Children are behind the walkers. IIRC he thinks there's a separate entity behind the Three Eyed Crow other than Bloodraven. Unless things have progressed since I was last on Heresy, which is a while admittedly, he was the one behind the theory that the three fingered lot were behind the making of the Others. Or am I mistaking him with Wolfmaid?
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Post by Melifeather on May 23, 2016 3:06:54 GMT
Is anyone else thinking Bran is going to change something in the TOJ with his powers? IMO it seems logical that Bran will alter something in the past in order to defeat the Others. Unless things have progressed since I was last on Heresy, which is a while admittedly, he was the one behind the theory that the three fingered lot were behind the making of the Others. Or am I mistaking him with Wolfmaid? Wolfmaid's theory includes a winter greenseer controlling the wights with the cold winds, and that this is separate from the white walkers who she believes aren't the ones attacking humans.
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 23, 2016 3:10:42 GMT
Did they have to end the episode with Arya's first hit like that? The scene with Arya watching the play with her father being portrayed as an imbecile, and then getting beheaded was brutal. I choked up watching her watch that.
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Post by Melifeather on May 23, 2016 3:13:00 GMT
Did they have to end the episode with Arya's first hit like that? The scene with Arya watching the play with her father being portrayed as an imbecile, and then getting beheaded was brutal. I choked up watching her watch that. Maybe they are establishing a revenge mind set for her? Hasn't Jaqen told her two or three times now that she's only got one chance left? Will she be motivated to study harder or will she leave before they can punish her for failing a third time?
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Post by Maester Flagons on May 23, 2016 3:15:26 GMT
Are you sure that's what he's preaching? He thinks the Children are creepy meat eaters out to double cross Bran, but I don't think he believes the Children are behind the walkers. IIRC he thinks there's a separate entity behind the Three Eyed Crow other than Bloodraven. Unless things have progressed since I was last on Heresy, which is a while admittedly, he was the one behind the theory that the three fingered lot were behind the making of the Others. Or am I mistaking him with Wolfmaid? BC is totally behind the CotF as the Others creators. Back to Jon and Sansa - the remark by Sansa that she is a Stark and Jon is the son of Ned got a discerning look from Jon. (Add in all the other stuff, and I couldn't help but think that she is going to use Jon to get Winterfell back in Stark hands. Will she marry Jon to seal the deal? He's a bastard son just like Ramsay.
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 23, 2016 3:17:04 GMT
Maybe they are establishing a revenge mind set for her? Hasn't Jaqen told her two or three times now that she's only got one chance left? Will she be motivated to study harder or will she leave before they can punish her for failing a third time? Arya's already got the revenge mind set, that's what the Faceless Men have been trying to whip out of her. As far as I remember she's only messed up once, when she stole the face. The other things were just trials she had to pass in order to even be considered for the role of FM.
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 23, 2016 3:21:44 GMT
BC is totally behind the CotF as the Others creators. Back to Jon and Sansa - the remark by Sansa that she is a Stark and Jon is the son of Ned got a discerning look from Jon. (Add in all the other stuff, and I couldn't help but think that she is going to use Jon to get Winterfell back in Stark hands. Will she marry Jon to seal the deal? He's a bastard son just like Ramsay. Thanks, I didn't think I'd lost touch with Heresy that much. Yeah, it's weird how she keeps calling him brother. Then when the issue comes up, she says he's Ned's son, and the North Remembers. I'm not sure if she can even marry him, he is still her half brother, so that would be considered incest, and even though the north doesn't follow the 7, the Old Gods don't approve of incest either.
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 23, 2016 3:23:21 GMT
Oh and speaking of that little fact, about being the bastard son of Ned Stark, anyone else notice the little disclaimer they stuck in there?
'Jon is as much a bastard son of Ned Stark, as Ramsay is of Roose Bolton.' Hhmmm.
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Post by Melifeather on May 23, 2016 3:25:29 GMT
As far as I remember she's only messed up once, when she stole the face. Didn't she kill somebody and Jaqen told her it wasn't up to her to decide?
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Post by Melifeather on May 23, 2016 3:28:01 GMT
'Jon is as much a bastard son of Ned Stark, as Ramsay is of Roose Bolton.' Hhmmm. I missed that, but I did hear the line in the mummer's play when "Cersei" said she could feel the winds of winter sailing across the land. I don't think this is supposed to be a dig at GRRM and it doesn't feel like an homage...does it?
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 23, 2016 3:34:43 GMT
As far as I remember she's only messed up once, when she stole the face. Didn't she kill somebody and Jaqen told her it wasn't up to her to decide? That's why she stole the face, to kill Meryn Traunt.
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