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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 6, 2016 15:08:24 GMT
Seems a bit pointless to have saved her life, getting kicked out of the Faceless Men as a result, and then send her to certain death as a decoy. Maybe some random who she chucked a few pieces of silver though. I could get behind it being some random decoy. Or even the actress that did the hiring. Just way too cocky of Arya to be strolling about, not a care in the world. The reason I picked the actress that she saved is because there's added insurance there for Arya. If the actress completes getting her passage on the ship back to westeros without getting killed, then all well and good. She didn't want her dead in the first place. If she happens to get killed by the Waif, then the contract Arya was sent out on is completed. No reason to hunt her down and kill her then. They may come after her to bring her back to the FM, but she'll no longer be required to pay with her life for a contract not completed. Maybe Arya was acting injured so that everyone would see her bleeding and she would be assumed dead. Then she would be truly no one. No the Waif got her good. She stuck the blade in and twisted it so that the wound won't close. The other reason I don't think that was Arya is because of her behaviour. Before her encounter with the Waif, she's not looking at the people around her, Arya would be looking because she knows they'll be after her. She goes to the trouble to change her appearance but shows no caution what ever? Come now. Then after being stabbed she's terrified of anyone who so much as looks at her. Suddenly she can't trust that they are not all Faceless Men. Arya would know they only send one assassin at time to do a job.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 6, 2016 15:29:00 GMT
Mulling this over. The Waif seemed to be satisfied she was dead* - but "Arya" made sure dozens of people see her bleeding in the streets, in which case, what was the point of the Waif thinking she did the job? It was sort of odd how "Arya" turned towards the old woman with a bit of a smile. Certainly Arya is smarter than that. And the preview shows another confrontation and more acrobatics. So it's all bizarre. As was the attack itself. Wouldn't a FM go for the heart and not the abdomen ala how Talisa was killed? Are we supposed to be reminded of Jon's wounds? Will Arya "die" like Jon? And was this all a construct so they don't have to show Arya in Westeros this season? It's funny that in this weeks Previously on GoT they showed the part where Jaqen tells the Waif 'don't make her suffer'. We know the Waif is jealous of Arya, so of course the Waif is going to give her the gift of a slow and painful death. Twisting the blade as she did would ensure that. Even if you stitch it up, the internal damage is severe. And as for the preview... I think the Waif is Arya in disguise. The look of fear on the Waif's face is something we've never seen. It also looks like the Waif was just waiting for something or watching something when she turns and becomes terrified. I can't see Arya waiting in public to board a ship with her own face. So what if she's wearing the Waif's face and the actual Waif, or Jaqen, comes along with Arya's face to maybe cross to Westeros on her/his own assignment? Also, if Arya had actually been stabbed as she was, there is no way they could chase each other and Arya do the acrobatics in that scene with the amount of internal damage she sustained.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 6, 2016 16:41:32 GMT
Mulling this over. The Waif seemed to be satisfied she was dead* - but "Arya" made sure dozens of people see her bleeding in the streets, in which case, what was the point of the Waif thinking she did the job? It was sort of odd how "Arya" turned towards the old woman with a bit of a smile. Certainly Arya is smarter than that. And the preview shows another confrontation and more acrobatics. So it's all bizarre. As was the attack itself. Wouldn't a FM go for the heart and not the abdomen ala how Talisa was killed? Are we supposed to be reminded of Jon's wounds? Will Arya "die" like Jon? And was this all a construct so they don't have to show Arya in Westeros this season? It's funny that in this weeks Previously on GoT they showed the part where Jaqen tells the Waif 'don't make her suffer'. We know the Waif is jealous of Arya, so of course the Waif is going to give her the gift of a slow and painful death. Twisting the blade as she did would ensure that. Even if you stitch it up, the internal damage is severe. And as for the preview... I think the Waif is Arya in disguise. The look of fear on the Waif's face is something we've never seen. It also looks like the Waif was just waiting for something or watching something when she turns and becomes terrified. I can't see Arya waiting in public to board a ship with her own face. So what if she's wearing the Waif's face and the actual Waif, or Jaqen, comes along with Arya's face to maybe cross to Westeros on her/his own assignment? Also, if Arya had actually been stabbed as she was, there is no way they could chase each other and Arya do the acrobatics in that scene with the amount of internal damage she sustained All great points!
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 6, 2016 17:24:50 GMT
Oh and one more reason why I don't think that was actually Arya. In last week's episode we see her retrieve Needle. The Arya walking about Braavos is unarmed. Come now. Arya walking about Braavos without Needle is already suspicious, but walking about town without so much as knife? I ask you!
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Post by Melifeather on Jun 6, 2016 17:35:25 GMT
I agree that Arya made someone else look like her, but I think it was the young jealous actress that wanted the good seasoned actress killed. The waif was still the waif and she thought it was Arya.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 6, 2016 17:45:02 GMT
I think it was the young jealous actress that wanted the good seasoned actress killed. This was my thought as well.
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Post by Maester Flagons on Jun 6, 2016 17:48:06 GMT
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 6, 2016 17:57:36 GMT
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 6, 2016 17:58:14 GMT
I agree that Arya made someone else look like her, but I think it was the young jealous actress that wanted the good seasoned actress killed. The waif was still the waif and she thought it was Arya. Yes this crossed my mind too. It fits with Arya reclaiming Needle. On the show, the wonder duo said Needle represented Arya's need for vengeance. So if she's retrieved Needle, it would signify she is back on with her list and wanting revenge. She hates the younger actress and it would fit that she'd want some sort of justice for what Arya sees as an unwarranted killing.
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Post by Maester Flagons on Jun 7, 2016 2:59:14 GMT
That episode run time was shorter than normal, right? It seemed that way to me. So why not give the monologue or broken men story from the books. At least part of it. Don't to mean to harp on it, but that would have made the episode so much more enjoyable. Sandor better kick some major ass next episode to make up for it. Still unclear where the Arya plot is going. Some good ideas here about her. When I first saw that scene, I thought Arya was ready for the attack and the blood was a prop. Now, I don't know. Gonna agree with whoever said the writers are dragging out her arc to postpone the trip back home. And no Dany nor Tyrion!
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 7, 2016 4:55:31 GMT
Nor Bran. I'm guessing Sansa was writing to Littlefinger? How's he gonna get past Moat Cailin with an army from the Vale?
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Post by Melifeather on Jun 7, 2016 10:31:37 GMT
I think they're saving the extra minutes for the finale.
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Post by Maester Flagons on Jun 7, 2016 11:06:10 GMT
Nor Bran. I'm guessing Sansa was writing to Littlefinger? How's he gonna get past Moat Cailin with an army from the Vale? When Sansa sends Littlefinger away, he says he'd be waiting at Moat Cailin, correct? So are there crannogmen in the show version besides Meera, Jojen, and Howland? If so, why have Jon and Sansa not tried recruiting there?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 7, 2016 11:25:49 GMT
Sansa used a raven to contact either Petyr or the Blackfish, and we know they used a raven to the Manderlys. They left the rest up in the air, I wonder if the show will drag the crannogmen into it. I hope so, but I'm still angry about Ian McShane not delivering anything close to an Elder Brother/Septon Meribald speech, so I doubt it lol.
Wouldn't Sansa know better than to put her seal on an unsealed letter? In red, no less.
I guess people keep their seal on them at all times in case they have to jump off a wall?
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Post by ac on Jun 7, 2016 12:44:26 GMT
I guess people keep their seal on them at all times in case they have to jump off a wall? I couldn't understand this either. Where the heck did she get that from?! Surely the whole point is that they are not just lying around for anyone to pick up. No way Ramsey would've let her keep it. Presumably as a Snow and member of the Night's Watch John didn't have one.
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