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Post by Ser Duncan on Nov 23, 2016 20:08:17 GMT
I think the answer to this question is in episode 1. When Ford asks Abernathy what he would say to his maker, Abernathy answers 'My most mechanical hand.' while looking straight at Ford. He then says he wants revenge on both of them, and when he says both, he's looking straight at Bernard. Also Abernathy asks, 'you don't know anymore do you? You're in a prison of your own sins.' Which makes me remember that off centred photo. Was Bernard one of 3 and died long before, like 30 years before? Which is why he can't see himself in that photo. Now what if Ford died much later and is a newer construct, with greater capabilities? It would explain how he can non-verbally execute commands that others can't. He's wired to the main frame.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Nov 23, 2016 22:56:56 GMT
When Ford asks Abernathy what he would say to his maker, Abernathy answers 'My most mechanical hand.' while looking straight at Ford. He then says he wants revenge on both of them, and when he says both, he's looking straight at Bernard. Yep. One reason I'm on the Bernarnold train. Now what if Ford died much later and is a newer construct, with greater capabilities? It would explain how he can non-verbally execute commands that others can't. It would also explain Ford's lack of aging if in fact some of what we're seeing with Ford is from a period of time 10+ years ago. I wonder if pretty soon Maeve will be able to blink or wiggle a finger and control the hosts?
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Post by Ser Duncan on Nov 24, 2016 0:28:19 GMT
Yep. One reason I'm on the Bernarnold train. So who's the person in the centre of the photo? I think there is someone definitely to the right of the guy Ford claims is Arnold, and if Bernard is Arnold, presumably standing to the right, then that guy is a mystery.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Nov 24, 2016 0:32:28 GMT
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Nov 24, 2016 0:35:01 GMT
So who's the person in the centre of the photo? Welp, he sure looks a lot like Ford's bot-dad! Recall that Arnold supposedly built Ford Dadbot, too....
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Post by Weasel Pie on Nov 24, 2016 0:38:45 GMT
So who's the person in the centre of the photo? Welp, he sure looks a lot like Ford's bot-dad! Recall that Arnold supposedly built Ford Dadbot, too.... Voila. Down to the sweater vest.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Nov 24, 2016 0:42:14 GMT
Notice that FordDadBot isn't looking toward the camera, either....if he was one of the first "realistic" creations, he may be in sleep mode in this photo.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Nov 24, 2016 3:10:48 GMT
Thanks WP! You can see there is enough space there for a 3rd person. Since Bernard is a host, and he's programmed to not hear or see things that break the host's 'reality', then WTF (with the W standing for Who) is Bernard NOT seeing!? Himself as a real and live human? Just like he couldn't see his schematics as a droid when Theresa showed it to him. Notice that FordDadBot isn't looking toward the camera, either....if he was one of the first "realistic" creations, he may be in sleep mode in this photo. Dude! Like WP said, it's Ford Sr in that photo, but I don't think he's in sleep mode. The photo is so heavily retouched that it's hard to tell, but he's look right at the camera. It's just that they've made him look younger.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Nov 24, 2016 3:20:20 GMT
Now this opens up some more mental possibilities. Arnold is actually Ford's father. Whether that be as creator/father or biological/father, is another question entirely. However, I'll remind you guys that it was heavily implied in Ford's dialogue that young Ford, aka Boy, is a killer that did away with his brother. Does that mean the tragedy that happened 30 years ago is that Ford Sr figured out that Dr Ford is a murderer? And then when bonkers and killed all of them, Dr Ford included.
I sound like a mental person. What if the MiB is Ford's not dead brother? Could it be that 30 years ago, when the MiB first went to the park, Arnold found out his son was not dead and that's what drove him round the bend?
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Nov 24, 2016 5:02:18 GMT
Himself as a real and live human? You got it! Team Bernarnold! I don't think he's in sleep mode. The photo is so heavily retouched that it's hard to tell, but he's look right at the camera. Really? I dunno, I'm looking at that closeup of the framed pic that I posted, and the eyes look like they're fixed on something off in the distance...not at the camera like Young Ford. However, I'll remind you guys that it was heavily implied in Ford's dialogue that young Ford, aka Boy, is a killer that did away with his brother. Does that mean the tragedy that happened 30 years ago is that Ford Sr figured out that Dr Ford is a murderer? And then when bonkers and killed all of them, Dr Ford included. OOOOOoooH...now I had forgotten that little snippet about Ford and his bro. Need to revisit that one. Interesting.
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