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Post by wolfmaid7 on Aug 16, 2017 21:46:50 GMT
Other than the scenery.Guys,this was bad.I was joking,I mean joking...Not really about the entire point of Sam being at the Citadel is to find a moldy parchment proving Jon as a lost Targ heir. They scraped the barrel for this and yet the puppet gallery will foam at the mouth.Its so ridiculous and so evident how insignificant Rhaegar is to anyone but Dany. He has no relevance to Jon at all.Other than book readers,show only people have no idea who Rhaegar is.Even in the books he has no impact other than being a guy who some people worshiped and who some guys and girls wanted to get into bed with. We as readers really know nothing about Rhaegar other than what some thought.So I am confused that some want him to be Jon's father so bad.I think it's because it so easily fits into the fantasy trope that everyone is so familiar and comfortable with. Despite the fact that it goes against the main core of the series, many readers seem to think that the Iron Throne is the ultimate end game, and Jon needs some type of pretextual birthright to claim it. That, or they just really, really, want to see Jon riding a dragon . Another possibility is that the readers are more comfortable with the Andal culture of South Westeros which is influenced by more popular mythology such as the Arthurian tales and Greek mythology. This is despite the fact that Jon's entire storyline is contained in the First Man/northern aspects of ASOIAf, which is influenced by the lesser known, and frankly stranger, Norse Celtic and Slavic mythologies. All very true, especially the part about dismissing the lore of the North.Everything of the North has Ben made insignificant. But this reflects a common sentiment.One that is seen on Westeros.org in particular.There seems to be a serious hard on for everything Targ.
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Post by Melifeather on Aug 17, 2017 2:03:21 GMT
I'm just holding out hope that the books will be very different from the show. Trying to remain neutral and remove what I know and understand from the books, I still think I will enjoy watching. It's just a different story...a fantasy trope to be sure, but entertaining.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 19, 2017 2:20:34 GMT
Catspaw = reforged Dark Sister
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 21, 2017 0:10:47 GMT
Randyll Tarly: You cannot send me to the Wall, you are not my Queen.
OK so what's the deal with this. Is there something here about Nymeria sending the six kings to the Wall during Nymeria's War? Some implication that Randyll has been loyal to certain Queens? After all he's only loyal to Cersei because of a Hobson's choice. Tyrion infers he's been wishy washy about his loyalties, which couldn't be further from the truth.
I dunno. But the drive-by Tarly story arc has to mean more than Dany (possibly) pissing off Jon, Sam and Jorah by Dracarysing Randyll and Dickon. Other than the obvious parallel with Aerys killing Brandon and Rickard.
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uh guys? This just occurred to me because of how whack Cersei is acting with Jaime. Jaime is not the father. Undead Robert Strong, the Resurrected Gregor Clegane is. And this is supposed to parallel something that happened in the past, namely a "Queen" making a similar choice.
I kicked around in another thread that the show is setting up Dany and Jon as twins. Both have been resurrected.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 21, 2017 0:50:56 GMT
Brienne, Pod, the Hound, Gendry, Thoros, Bendric - who else couldn't be arsed to mention that they were with Arya at some point? Jon's whole crew with the exception of Davos all spent significant time with her.
Gah.
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Post by Melifeather on Aug 21, 2017 17:45:38 GMT
Randyll Tarly: You cannot send me to the Wall, you are not my Queen. OK so what's the deal with this. Is there something here about Nymeria sending the six kings to the Wall during Nymeria's War? Some implication that Randyll has been loyal to certain Queens? After all he's only loyal to Cersei because of a Hobson's choice. Tyrion infers he's been wishy washy about his loyalties, which couldn't be further from the truth. I dunno. But the drive-by Tarly story arc has to mean more than Dany (possibly) pissing off Jon, Sam and Jorah by Dracarysing Randyll and Dickon. Other than the obvious parallel with Aerys killing Brandon and Rickard. - uh guys? This just occurred to me because of how whack Cersei is acting with Jaime. Jaime is not the father. Undead Robert Strong, the Resurrected Gregor Clegane is. And this is supposed to parallel something that happened in the past, namely a "Queen" making a similar choice. I kicked around in another thread that the show is setting up Dany and Jon as twins. Both have been resurrected. I'm feeling a little Ser-Duncan-thick-as-a-plank...what are you talking about when you say Jaime is not the father? I'm not following...
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 21, 2017 18:22:25 GMT
Randyll Tarly: You cannot send me to the Wall, you are not my Queen. OK so what's the deal with this. Is there something here about Nymeria sending the six kings to the Wall during Nymeria's War? Some implication that Randyll has been loyal to certain Queens? After all he's only loyal to Cersei because of a Hobson's choice. Tyrion infers he's been wishy washy about his loyalties, which couldn't be further from the truth. I dunno. But the drive-by Tarly story arc has to mean more than Dany (possibly) pissing off Jon, Sam and Jorah by Dracarysing Randyll and Dickon. Other than the obvious parallel with Aerys killing Brandon and Rickard. - uh guys? This just occurred to me because of how whack Cersei is acting with Jaime. Jaime is not the father. Undead Robert Strong, the Resurrected Gregor Clegane is. And this is supposed to parallel something that happened in the past, namely a "Queen" making a similar choice. I kicked around in another thread that the show is setting up Dany and Jon as twins. Both have been resurrected. I'm feeling a little Ser-Duncan-thick-as-a-plank...what are you talking about when you say Jaime is not the father? I'm not following... Hope it's not spoiling you to point out Cersei's suggestive stomach patting, followed by a discussion of who Cersei would say is the father? She's pregnant.
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Post by Melifeather on Aug 21, 2017 21:09:31 GMT
I'm feeling a little Ser-Duncan-thick-as-a-plank...what are you talking about when you say Jaime is not the father? I'm not following... Hope it's not spoiling you to point out Cersei's suggestive stomach patting, followed by a discussion of who Cersei would say is the father? She's pregnant. Don't worry about spoiling anything. I must have missed that.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Sept 1, 2017 1:32:39 GMT
Just wondering if anyone caught the comment by the guard on the beach, guessing what was in Davos' boat, while Gendry was hanging out. One guard asks if they have wine.
The other guesses ham.
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Post by Melifeather on Sept 1, 2017 15:59:26 GMT
Just wondering if anyone caught the comment by the guard on the beach, guessing what was in Davos' boat, while Gendry was hanging out. One guard asks if they have wine. The other guesses ham. as in Ser Piggy?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Sept 1, 2017 16:23:09 GMT
Just wondering if anyone caught the comment by the guard on the beach, guessing what was in Davos' boat, while Gendry was hanging out. One guard asks if they have wine. The other guesses ham. as in Ser Piggy? I was thinking more that the show was referring to Renly making a ham joke when Melisandre talks about salt and smoke//Azor Ahai. But you know I won't back away from any Ser Aegs and Bacon theories.
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