Episode 1: Winterfell - [Book Spoilers]

Great comments by Leigh Blickley, entertainment writer for MSN Entertainment for fucks sake!





I couldn't agree with her more. How about you?

Good for you, Feather, actually having the stomach to start up another HBO season thread. At least this is the last one. Of course, we'll probably have to suffer through a show about "White Walkers". God is that going to be awful.

As for the show, I've pretty much given up hope. I remember a couple of years ago, before I totally gave up on the show, we gathered together in this thread and tried to come up with theories that might explain away some of the stupidity that the episodes showed. Unfortunately none of our theories came to fruition and the plotline in the stories were just as stupid as they initially appeared.

I'm going to go ahead and watch this thing to the bitter end, because I'm a junkie for all things Westeros.

And just to show you how much of a glutton for punishment I am, I still hold out one last hope for the show.

I think maybe, just maybe, the show is going to troll the R + L = J crowd. It's probably just wishful thinking on my part, but hear me out.

It's fairly unusual that the show revealed Jon's parentage during the second to last season of the show. And the confirmation all came through visions that Bran had through the weirnet. These visions also occurred (I think anyway) after on of Bran's dreams was infiltrated by the Night's King.

As we saw in last week's episode, Sam makes the big reveal to Jon, with a less than enthusiastic response from Jon. But Sam also introduced the idea to Jon, that his claim is better than Dany's. And of course keep in mind, Sam is probably fairly angry over the revelation that Dany torched his father and brother. So in other words, the show is setting up a future conflict between Dany and Jon. And of course this conflict might occur before the Night King and his horde appear at Winterfell.

So maybe just maybe, the Night King intentionally messed with Bran's mind putting the tower of joy (really castle of joy) vision in Bran's head, and that ridiculous wedding scene between Rhaegar and Lyanna in his head as well. Perhaps to intentionally stoke conflict between Jon and Dany.

Would this be a fairly stupid twist, well, yes it kind of would be. Yet it would fit in perfectly with the rest of the stupidity in the show.

Now the show has also teased of trips into the crypts by both Jon and Arya, perhaps for a big reveal. The only thing that I can think of is that perhaps this trip might reveal that Brans visions were a lie, and that Rhaegar is not Jon's father.

If nothing else it would piss off the right people in the Westeros forum, and I'd have the satisfaction of laughing at them for a while, until we all go back to waiting, waiting, waiting for Winds of Winter.