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Post by Weasel Pie on Apr 3, 2016 2:11:08 GMT
Robb tried to warg into Grey Wind but couldn't. So he warged into Cat.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Apr 3, 2016 23:49:49 GMT
Robb tried to warg into Grey Wind but couldn't. So he warged into Cat. Did you see this over at W? I did, and thought it was awesome! Very well laid out, IMO, despite all the standard responses from the peanut gallery. *sandwiches*
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Post by Weasel Pie on Apr 3, 2016 23:54:27 GMT
Robb tried to warg into Grey Wind but couldn't. So he warged into Cat. Did you see this over at W? I did, and thought it was awesome! Very well laid out, IMO, despite all the standard responses from the peanut gallery. *sandwiches* nope, but I wrote up something about this a few years ago. If you read Varamyr's prologue and the Red Wedding scene, it's a spot on comparison. *robot dance*
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Apr 4, 2016 0:48:28 GMT
Imma link you up with a thread then, you'll love it. Or not, if it was your idea from years ago. ETA: found it, was looking on the wrong site. Will not link here.
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Post by Maester Flagons on Apr 4, 2016 1:04:31 GMT
Mel and Quaithe are sisters. Do you think they are hedging their bets? Between the two, one must have the winner in tow?
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Post by freyfamilyreunion on Apr 5, 2016 15:42:58 GMT
Robb tried to warg into Grey Wind but couldn't. So he warged into Cat. If this was the scenario that occurred, any thoughts on how that may have enabled Beric to resurrect Cat?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Apr 5, 2016 15:46:16 GMT
Robb tried to warg into Grey Wind but couldn't. So he warged into Cat. If this was the scenario that occurred, any thoughts on how that may have enabled Beric to resurrect Cat? Glad you asked! I'm going to start a thread on this and not derail things here.
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Post by darksister1001 on Apr 6, 2016 18:40:32 GMT
Mel and Quaithe are sisters. Do you think they are hedging their bets? Between the two, one must have the winner in tow? I think they think they are helping Jon & Dany, ice and fire. Whether or not they actually succeed is a whole other discussion.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Apr 6, 2016 19:01:45 GMT
I think they think they are helping Jon & Dany, ice and fire. Whether or not they actually succeed is a whole other discussion. That's one I'd like to have. I don't think Mel realises she's backing the wrong horse. She might now, after what happened with the Pink Letter, but not before. Quaithe, on the other hand is certain of her choice. She's made a connection and has been steering Dany for a long time.
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Post by darksister1001 on Apr 6, 2016 19:55:35 GMT
I think they think they are helping Jon & Dany, ice and fire. Whether or not they actually succeed is a whole other discussion. That's one I'd like to have. I don't think Mel realises she's backing the wrong horse. She might now, after what happened with the Pink Letter, but not before. Quaithe, on the other hand is certain of her choice. She's made a connection and has been steering Dany for a long time. Shall we start a thread? (In my best War Games computer voice)
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Post by Ser Duncan on Apr 6, 2016 20:46:02 GMT
Shall we start a thread? (In my best War Games computer voice) Please do! This is one of those theories that has legs.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Apr 9, 2016 0:06:32 GMT
Maester Walys Flowers. I suspect him of... stuff. Lots and lots of stuff.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Apr 9, 2016 0:56:45 GMT
I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE STUFF!!!
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Post by Weasel Pie on Apr 9, 2016 10:48:47 GMT
Walys Flowers: bastard of a Hightower girl and an Archmaester. This is the first clue. Why not make him "random Maester guy"? Because his heritage matters, that's why. GRRM has been mum on the Hightower front, but we do know it's obvious the Citadel would be interested in "magical" families. Maester to Winterfell, and that means Maester to Lyanna Stark, a noble girl who would depend on her Maester should she get pregnant, for example. It also means Maester to Hodor whenever it was that Hodor was Hodored, and probably Maester to Lyarra Stark when she... died? Mysteriously disappears from the story sometime after being complicit in the "Southron Ambition" scheme for Brandon to marry Cat. Barbry Dustin fills us in! She knew the deal. Cat brings Luwin with her from Riverrun. Which means Walys was gone from Winterfell, and the Citadel sent Luwin to Riverrun to attend the birth of Robb and travel with Cat back to Winterfell. This is weird. No Maester in WF for Benjen? For Ned, returning from war? It's weird, I tell ya.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Apr 9, 2016 14:32:50 GMT
I will word vomit.
Bastard of Hightower and Archmaester means that he would be related in some fashion to 1) the White Bull, connection obvious, and 2) Lynesse Hightower, connected to all the post-Rebellion weirdness of House Mormont.
Luwin was named Maester of Winterfell DURING the Rebellion, which means Walys disappeared sometime then. Luwin goes to Riverrun to be with Cat. This is odd in itself - Ned has married Cat after BotB and left again before he even knows she's with child, but he tells her to stay at her father's castle "for safety". Except....Hoster Tully has already called his banners against the crown, and Riverrun is right smack in the middle of all the fighting. We see from Tywin's siege that Riverrun is vulnerable - yet Ned opts to leave his new wife there instead of sending her to Winterfell in the ass end of nowhere. Winterfell is not only far enough north that the crown isn't going to take the fight there, but is also protected by the Neck and Moat Cailin meaning that the royal forces would most likely fail even if they did try to invade. It's probably one of the safest places in Westeros. So why not send Cat there to wait out the war, and birth their child at "home"?
Can't remember where I brought it up, but we have a second missing maester, too - the maester of Dragonstone that supposedly delivered Elia's children, and that would have delivered Rhaella of Dany too. Maesters are assigned to castles, not Lords, so when Stannis takes Dragonstone post-Rebellion he should have already had a maester there...but he doesn't. He brings Cressen with him from Storm's End. So where is Maester Dragonstone?
So - two missing maesters from two different Paramount houses, both vanishing at some point in RR....and two children of dubious origin born into both of those houses at some point in RR.
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