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Post by Maester Flagons on May 4, 2016 0:32:58 GMT
Speculation ahoy. Who do you think the episode three Oathbreaker is? Sam maybe?
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Post by Melifeather on May 4, 2016 0:48:45 GMT
If they show the tower of joy, I expect a Kingsguard to be an oathbreaker.
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Post by Weasel Pie on May 4, 2016 0:57:42 GMT
Has to be someone who took an oath.. maybe? Since the title usually applies to multiple people... Brienne. Jon. Sam. Arya?
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Post by Maester Flagons on May 4, 2016 1:00:23 GMT
I thought about Brienne or Sansa, but so soon?
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Post by Weasel Pie on May 4, 2016 1:01:29 GMT
I thought about Brienne or Sansa, but so soon? Maybe Brienne let Stannis live!
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Post by Maester Flagons on May 4, 2016 1:03:53 GMT
If they show the tower of joy, I expect a Kingsguard to be an oathbreaker. Bran just might learn to see far away quickly. Show Bran doesn't seem to be tied to the tree's eyes so why not.
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Post by Maester Flagons on May 4, 2016 1:04:47 GMT
I thought about Brienne or Sansa, but so soon? Maybe Brienne let Stannis live! Totally on board with that.
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Post by min on May 4, 2016 1:45:28 GMT
This goes back to GoT Bran I. Ned asks Bran if he understands why he had to execute Gared, a man of the Night's Watch.
"He was a wildling," Bran said. "They carry off women and sell them to the Others."
His lord father smiled. "Old Nan has been telling you stories again. In truth, the man was an oathbreaker, a deserter from the Night's Watch. No man is more dangerous. The deserter knows his life is forfeit if he is taken, so he will not flinch from any crime, no matter how vile. ..."
Jon was executed for being an oathbreaker; for planning to leave his post; for becoming involved in affairs of the realm instead of remaining neutral. And for making peace with the Wildlings.
But this could be inverted quickly; with the assassins as traitors. Depending on who holds the power. And whether or not Jon Snow still considers himself bound to his oath and the Watch.
There is also the battle at the Tower of Joy or trial by combat seems more likely to me. These matters of honor could have something to do with broken pledges. Perhaps Ned is an oathbreaker as well. But that is stretching it with nothing whatsoever to back that up.
Reading the Mercy chapter; Arya may break some promises as well.
Petyr Baelish? What would Brienne do to an oathbreaker when she finds out how he betrayed Sansa?
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Post by min on May 4, 2016 1:47:36 GMT
I thought about Brienne or Sansa, but so soon? Maybe Brienne let Stannis live! Roose's man gives a battle report saying that they found Stannis' body but didn't know who killed him.
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Post by min on May 4, 2016 1:52:33 GMT
If they show the tower of joy, I expect a Kingsguard to be an oathbreaker. It is the Tower of Joy, Ser Arthur says "Now it begins," and Ned replies "Now it ends." That's straight out of the book.
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 4, 2016 19:51:49 GMT
If they show the tower of joy, I expect a Kingsguard to be an oathbreaker. That is exactly what I'm expecting too. I think I've read and agreed too much of your project, because I really think the oathbreaker is going to be Arthur Dayne.
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Post by Melifeather on May 4, 2016 20:12:05 GMT
If they show the tower of joy, I expect a Kingsguard to be an oathbreaker. That is exactly what I'm expecting too. I think I've read and agreed too much of your project, because I really think the oathbreaker is going to be Arthur Dayne. I would actually hate it if they do the presumed tower of joy scene instead of keeping it as Ned's fever dream, unless the men aren't Dayne, Hightower, and Whent....well, Whent would be fine, who cares about him...anyways, the way The Queenmaker chapter seems to read is that Arthur Dayne defected while leading the etachment that Aerys II sent against the Kingswood Brotherhood, and that Hightower may have actually been killed during the attack on Elia's. So, I'm wondering if their absence was hidden? If they were actually killed prior to the Rebellion, then that could be one explanation for Ned's "where were you guys?" line of questioning.
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Post by Weasel Pie on May 4, 2016 20:36:28 GMT
I would actually hate it if they do the presumed tower of joy scene instead of keeping it as Ned's fever dream I'm terrified how they're handling this. Ned is dead, so it's no longer a fever dream (emphasis GRRM's) if they present it as a vision.
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Post by Melifeather on May 4, 2016 20:43:40 GMT
I'm going to hold out hope that the three men are not Dayne, Hightower, and Whent. I think that's why Ned was so confused. He was expecting those three, because he hadn't seen them anywhere.
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Post by Melifeather on May 4, 2016 20:50:23 GMT
I'm terrified how they're handling this I'm scared too! lol
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