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Post by Weasel Pie on May 19, 2016 0:56:21 GMT
Does that then leave Jon as Ned's actual bastard? Wouldn't it be cool if that were one piece of canon that was actually canon? Hell, why not? Though I still think Jon has "more of the North" in him. With Dany as the Targ dragon/horse who can drink from the cup of ice if she wants to, why would the story need Jon as the romantic Ice/Fire baby? (No surprise what I think about that anyway).
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Post by Melifeather on May 19, 2016 3:50:47 GMT
The more I think about all this, the more I believe RLDIn all seriousness. We've got the failed birthing of Dragons at Summerhall, yes? On the day of Rhaegar's birth. If the ToJ was another birthing of dragons, and we need to parallel that with Drogo's pyre/sacrifice of a baby in order to birth dragons... then Rhaegar tried the blood sacrifice at the ToJ to birth dragons, he would need a "dead" lover and a baby. But Dany lived - born of a dead Lyanna. I can and have written loads about RLD, but even the show wants the unsullied to see the parallel between Dany and Lyanna. Our first glimpse of Lyanna and she's on a horse. And Dany gets the blue rose in the show. And the show pushed those strange Rhaegar discussions with Dany last season. Not saying I'm not on board with the Rhaegar rebirth - but Dany is the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna. I'm almost certain. Well, at least I'm not alone in feeling certain! We've actually did some good brainstorming today.
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Post by min on May 19, 2016 12:38:36 GMT
We've actually did some good brainstorming today. Yes! It was a good session. Sorry, my kidneys are aching and my stomach is sick. I think I've run out of gas.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on May 19, 2016 13:33:24 GMT
Does that then leave Jon as Ned's actual bastard? We've got Arya getting hit for calling him a full brother, but not getting hit for calling him her half brother, which would also earn her a hit if he's indeed her cousin. Then there's Sansa telling Jon he's the son of the true warden of the north and he's got to take back Winterfell. This would certainly explain Ned's guilts and broken promises, plus highlight a contradiction that I noted somewhere around here about having to make the choice between love/family and honor/duty. If the honorable Eddard Stark chose to bring home and care for his own bastard son instead of his sister's child that he swore to look after, and instead send said child across the narrow sea into exile due to her parentage/looks, that would indeed be a revelation.
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Post by Melifeather on May 19, 2016 15:07:03 GMT
Sorry, my kidneys are aching and my stomach is sick. I think I've run out of gas. Sorry to hear you're not feeling well.
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Post by Melifeather on May 19, 2016 17:27:52 GMT
Weasel Pie - I should have asked you to revise that dragon's tail ouroboros with the four major conquerors: Targaryen dragon, Martell sun, Lannister lion, and Stark wolf. Is that what is on that astrolabe on the show? I think they skipped the Martells in favor of Baratheon stag.
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Post by Melifeather on May 21, 2016 17:24:15 GMT
Having Dany burn the khals on the show is translating the symbolism that Dany herself is a dragon. In the books she had the vision of the khaleesis of the Dosh Kahleen crawling out of a lake shivering. This type of symbolism would be difficult to translate on screen, and I think book readers wouldn't be surprised if Drogon burned some khahls, but if you're trying to set Dany up as the mother of all dragons, the source of dragons if you will, then showing her burning the khals as if she herself were the dragon makes sense in this regard.
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