|
Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 3, 2016 15:37:00 GMT
**Disclaimer: The below will not take into account the show, as I have no idea what D&D are doing anymore.** See, the way you tell it, it makes sense. What the wonder duo are going to do, I don't know, but they did set up how much the Hound hates Gregor. And in the first season they included the scene where Sandor steps in to save Loras from Gregor's rage killing him. And he was doing well against him when King Bob called a halt to the proceedings.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 23:27:12 GMT
One reason I'm a little skeptical of the CleganeBowl is Sanders injury and if it's permanent.
|
|
|
Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 3, 2016 23:33:01 GMT
One reason I'm a little skeptical of the CleganeBowl is Sanders injury and if it's permanent. Well in the books, he walks with a limp. That suggests his injury was severe enough to cause permanent damage. On the show, the EB will probably have stuck a ruby in his heart or something equally stupid to explain why he's alive and whole.
|
|
|
Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 4, 2016 1:24:32 GMT
Well, a ruby has kept Mel intact on the face of it for 100+ years, so that might be exactly what they do!
|
|
|
Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 5, 2016 18:24:52 GMT
How many broken men can we list?
Theon, Sandor, Bran. Jaime. Tyrion. Jon? Varys. Gregor.
|
|
|
Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 5, 2016 18:30:22 GMT
That's a long list for one episode.
Forgot Loras, he's been broken by the Faith.
|
|
|
Post by Maester Flagons on Jun 6, 2016 2:42:17 GMT
Sandor is back! The Quiet Isle-equivalent was kinda interesting. A good mix of the elder, Meribald, and the Riverun village. I was hoping for a better story telling from the Elder Meribald, but can't take too much time with a long story in such a short showing. Gotta save some time for boobs. Death did come for the 'Quiet Isle' in the end. I wonder if this idea comes from the book plot. As for the next episode, Looks like no Clegane Bowl. Maybe the next ep. after that. The High Sparrow is something else, but Margery is still Margery. Wonder where her story is leading too.
|
|
|
Post by Maester Flagons on Jun 6, 2016 3:40:44 GMT
Forgot to mention Arya's scenes. I'm glad she is trying to get back to Westeros. BUT - Enough with the waif! The revenge fueled beatings and the shoddy attempted murder is too much. I hope there is a big payoff for all that time spent. So does Arya crawl back to the HoBaW? The mummer's? Boards the ship and heals on the way to Westeros?
|
|
|
Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 6, 2016 4:31:22 GMT
I don't think that's Arya. The show already set the precedent of faces off the living can be used as well as the dead. When Arya stole a face, and the Waif drank poison, Arya's face appeared on the corpse too. That may well be the actress she saved from poisoning doing her a favour.
The Sandor plot is kind of stupid. I loved Ian McShane, but what a waste of his talent to use him in just one episode. And the Brotherhood without Banners having turned rogue -- what? They were never depicted as good guys, but they were the resistance against the bad guys doing exactly what they just did. And please, please don't let that be Lem Lemon cloak! He's too young and too much of a dick.
And I have no idea what Margaery is playing. Clearly she is, but what her end game is, is beyond me. Does she just want her brother out before the crown turns on the Sparrow or what. She's had Jaime released from his vows, via Tommen, so he's now the Lord of Castle Rock, I would think, and able to be separate from the crown and free to deploy his troops as he sees fit once he completes his mission for the King.
Now if Tommen should die, and Marg is pregnant who rules? The queen mother or the queen mother to be? Oh and I would think Marg needs no reminders of how important getting an heir is, I would imagine though that she pillow talked into Tommen into telling that little tale to the HS.
The Blackfish FTW! Kingslayer, heh, been awhile since someone's called him that.
|
|
|
Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 6, 2016 6:52:21 GMT
Gotta save some time for boobs The revenge fueled beatings and the shoddy attempted murder is too much. Right? They're supposed to be skilled assassins. I'm thinking she runs into the actress. I think the scene means she won't be getting to Westeros as soon as we hoped. Also, Richard E. Grant would be wasted if he was only in those few other scenes. Possibly the troupe is heading to another city? I loved Ian McShane, but what a waste of his talent to use him in just one episode. He was great! But everything was a let down to me. And no memorable speech. Stealing the show was Lyanna Mormont. Great scene! Though I'm sick of the role Davos is playing now, it's as if he isn't even a person anymore. 62!
|
|
|
Post by ac on Jun 6, 2016 9:38:43 GMT
I don't think that's Arya. The show already set the precedent of faces off the living can be used as well as the dead. When Arya stole a face, and the Waif drank poison, Arya's face appeared on the corpse too. That may well be the actress she saved from poisoning doing her a favour. Seems a bit pointless to have saved her life, getting kicked out of the Faceless Men as a result, and then send her to certain death as a decoy. Maybe some random who she chucked a few pieces of silver though. Overall I think this whole episode could have been about 5 minutes long and it would have been just as useful in telling the story. I did like little Lady Mormont though.
|
|
|
Post by Melifeather on Jun 6, 2016 10:45:19 GMT
Maybe Arya was acting injured so that everyone would see her bleeding and she would be assumed dead. Then she would be truly no one.
The Brotherhood Without Banners is supposed to be hanging Freys, but they are supposed to be on the side of the common people too. That scene didn't make much sense, except I think they needed a setup for Sandor to become the Stranger...bringing death to...who?
I was disappointed that the Glovers turned down Jon and Sansa, and why did they make Jon into a weak whiny bitch? No wonder he didn't inspire anyone. I think they are setting up a way to make Jon legitimate by marrying Sansa, but how would they do that if she's still technically married? Or maybe the point was to show Sansa reconsidering Littlefinger's help and that's who she's sending the raven to?
Speaking of Margaery...was that just a picture of the Tyrell rose? It does seem to confirm that she was faking her piety in the books.
|
|
|
Post by ac on Jun 6, 2016 11:44:02 GMT
I was disappointed that the Glovers turned down Jon and Sansa, and why did they make Jon into a weak whiny bitch? No wonder he didn't inspire anyone. Hahaha. Not to mention I'd probably lead with the coming back from the dead thing. As well as mentioning they have at least one giant!
|
|
|
Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 6, 2016 12:45:08 GMT
The Sandor plot is kind of stupid. I loved Ian McShane, but what a waste of his talent to use him in just one episode. Ayyyyy-men. For one eppy, the least they could have done was give him THE ACTUAL MEMORABLE MONOLOGUE FROM THE BOOK. This IMO was the equivalent of beetles and Batfinger exposition. Just Although yay on Sandor, like no one saw that coming. My question is, if he's going after the BwB in the show, who will he go after in the books? I don't think that's Arya. The show already set the precedent of faces off the living can be used as well as the dead. When Arya stole a face, and the Waif drank poison, Arya's face appeared on the corpse too. That may well be the actress she saved from poisoning doing her a favour. Didn't think of this. I like. Overall I think this whole episode could have been about 5 minutes long and it would have been just as useful in telling the story. Nailed it. This episode was just....strange.
|
|
|
Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 6, 2016 13:29:43 GMT
I don't think that's Arya. The show already set the precedent of faces off the living can be used as well as the dead. When Arya stole a face, and the Waif drank poison, Arya's face appeared on the corpse too. That may well be the actress she saved from poisoning doing her a favour. Mulling this over. The Waif seemed to be satisfied she was dead* - but "Arya" made sure dozens of people see her bleeding in the streets, in which case, what was the point of the Waif thinking she did the job? It was sort of odd how "Arya" turned towards the old woman with a bit of a smile. Certainly Arya is smarter than that. And the preview shows another confrontation and more acrobatics. So it's all bizarre. As was the attack itself. Wouldn't a FM go for the heart and not the abdomen ala how Talisa was killed? Are we supposed to be reminded of Jon's wounds? Will Arya "die" like Jon? And was this all a construct so they don't have to show Arya in Westeros this season?
|
|