Can some please explain to me why Bran decides to touch the tree and go to the ToJ scene the moment Uncle Coldhands leaves him at the Godswood by Castle Black? And how exactly are they supposed to get from said Godswood to CB without a horse or a sled? Meera gonna drag his arse the whole way?
Wow ok. ShowHouses Tyrell and Frey obliterated. What the QoT is supposed to do now about her house, I dunno. I guess they just needed her money?
Dany breaking up with Daario and saying she needs to marry someone in Westeros. Jon basically legitimized. Doesn't that tie up nice and neatly. Damnit.
ToJ Scene was...wtf. First of all, who bleeds upwards? Second of all, more later. Heh. His name is Aegon? Really D&D? How the hell are they gonna dig out of that hole? Unless Aegon was at the ToJ because Rhaegar and Elia were hiding him from Aerys/Robert - which I've long suspected . So maybe Lyanna didn't even give birth. And Jon isn't a Stark. That wasn't a newborn baby. She literally just finished screaming.
Couple of odd things:
Petyr saying Jon was a motherless bastard. Strange comment for someone supposedly in the know. Probably just being a voice piece to express what everyone else thinks, but it was stupid decision on D&D's part to have Petyr say that line - unless he means something else.
Jon saying "my father always said winter was coming" or however he phrased it. Ha!!
Jon saying "I am not a Stark."
Frey Pie was awesome! Fairly decent book tie-in - a guest-right breaker being doomed to eat his own children. Though I'm not sure why Arya needed a face, no one knows her there. Is she randomly murdering women to steal their faces now? Will she head right to Winterfell or head for Cersei and Ser Gregor first? Run into the Red Woman? Find the Hound?
Speaking of Cersei. Waaaat? Day shit cray. Brilliant call on that one Mel. Damnit Tommen.
Why did they have to stab the crap out of Pycelle if the fire was coming anyway? Strange attempt to tie in the book I guess. But I'm not complaining because I called it in one of those Death Poll things.
Sam arriving at the Citadel was very cool. I suppose we'll get some new regular characters here since half the cast was obliterated in the finale. I'm still not giving up that Sam is a Targ, and that the sword he stole is more than just House Tarly's sword. Maybe he'll be the show Blackfyre/fAegon?
The endgame is Stark, Lannister and Targaryen, with a bit of Greyjoy and Sand Sister. Nothing to see at the Wall, Essos is done (except maybe Jorah - who I expect to run into Quaithe), no more reason to be in Dorne. Hoping we get some Hightower action, will be interesting (read:excruciating) to see how D&D handle that since we don't have anything to compare it to from GRRM.
The Sept of Baelor is toast - along with all the graves there, did you guys catch that part? I think D&D must have screwed up something major when they had Joff point out "the crypts of the last Targaryens" to Marg so they needed Cersei to fix it with that nonsense about burning Tommen.
But there is something even more interesting happening with that line - Cersei is screaming Mad King Queen at every turn. I'm 90% there with Cersei and Jaime as Aerys's. So if the line from Joff was supposed to allude to Aerys - as one of the last Targs and as Tommen's grandfather - we're cool heh.
Which makes Dany as Rhaegar's daughter even more viable, but if Cersei and Jaime turn out to be Dany's half-siblings...nice.
What a waste of a season for Peter Dinklage.
Last Edit: Jun 27, 2016 12:35:39 GMT by Weasel Pie
Well, Lyanna having sex with an Other in the crypts of Winterfell still isn't precluded.
I am not ruling it out, not after that setup last night. I mean, we go from Coldjen dropping Bran off at the Wall, with his arc being all about the looming threat from the Lands of Always Winter, and Bran has to access the weirnet to see THAT SCENE play out. Why? Why is Jon's birth important to Bran's arc if not to have immediate bearing on/relation to the conflict with the Night King?
So either Jonbaby indeed has "more of the north" in him and Lyanna was imbued with some frosty goodness, or HBO is going full-on fan theory with either RLJ (his is the song of ice and fire) or Jon = Aegon VI (his is the song of ice and fire). Both of these fan solutions have a lot of 'splainin to do with regard to book text - someone has backed themselves into a corner with the story, and I'm not sure if it's HBO or GRRM.
Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 27, 2016 14:14:58 GMT
I did love that Cersei opted for her black dragonscale gown for the Sept roast. Very wise fashion choice, that.
I think what is killing me about the plotlines of the last two seasons is that D&D made changes to the book plot - "Creatively, it made sense" - only to end up in the same goddamn place anyway, with their changes adding absolutely nothing.
For example: Jaime obviously becomes disillusioned with Cersei after seeing her BBQ half of King's Landing to get to the throne, and next season will most likely distance himself from her. OK, so....why was that necessary instead of letting it unfold organically the way it did in the books? They butchered Jaime's character beyond recognition for....no reason at all? Because now his relationship with Cersei is in exactly the same place as it would have been anyway? Same with Tyrion and Jaime. Tyrion is now Dany's hand, all right - obviously this is going to pit him against Jaime when they make landfall and try to take Cersei's newly acquired seat. Bookwise, Tyrion and Jaime are already in conflict due to the Tysha reveal during Tyrion's escape from KL. Instead, D&D give us a bro moment with beetles that added absolutely nothing to the story while getting to the same endpoint. ? Let me guess another: in show world, Missandei and Grey Worm's blossoming not-romance will either go nowhere, or one of them will die - and this will get us right back to where things were in the books between an eunuch and an 11yo girl. Why? WHY?
I can handle changes for the sake of the television medium, but the retconning that is needed to bring it all back to the original book plot is just KILLING me. What a hot mess this has become.
Ditto's on everything Weasel Pie. IMHO this might have been the best episode of this season. Last week was good and I like the episode where Dany burnt down the Dosh Khaleen.
A few side comments. I don't even want to know what FrankenGregor is doing to that Septa. I half way thought Qyburn was going to come in and commence with some Dr. Frankenstein type experiments.
The look that Jamie had, when Cersei sat on the Iron Throne, made me think that he would become the valanquor. He doesn't look very happy with her at the moment.
Another ditto to WP on the Citadel. I suppose we will get to see Marwyn next season. Besides, looks like they will need a new grand maester in Kings Landing once Dany sets up shop.
And on a final thought regards Dany finally getting the hell out of Slaver's Bay and what is on tap for her in Westeros. So she has the backing of Dorne and Hightower so it's pretty much a clean sweep right up to Kings Landing. Who is going to stop her? Not the Lannisters, nor anyone else from what I can tell. The Stark's are the only other game in town (outside of the Vale) but they are a little preoccupied with Winter coming. The one wild card in the chicken coop might be Euron, especially is he has a dragon horn stuffed in his shirt sleeve. That might be an interesting twist to have the two greyjoy fleets collide at sea and Euron binding one or more of the dragons to his side. Of course, this would have been easier to digest if they had introduced the dragon horn at the Kingsmoot. The fact that it wasn't there sort of suggests that its introduction is not likely. My point being is that with Dany, her unsullied, her Dothraki, her three dragons and formidable allies in Dorne and Hightower....well it seems to be a foregone conclusion, except for the North.