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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 28, 2016 1:26:50 GMT
I didn't know these existed and now I need to read them all! I'm still laughing over this:
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Post by Maester Flagons on Jun 28, 2016 1:42:18 GMT
Why would the faith militant, or whatever they're called, stop the crowd from leaving? That did not make sense, to me. It would have been better if it all went down with only a rumbling before the big kaboom. I see the crossover of Cersei burning the Red Keep, and I just remembered Bran's montage featuring King Aerys and some green stuff, iirc. Was that supposed to be Aerys' stash of wildfire?
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Post by Melifeather on Jun 28, 2016 1:47:29 GMT
I think the Faith Militant was growing in power and let it go to their heads. They wanted everyone to stay for the trial, but never even thought Cersei would defy them, nor that she was that dangerous.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 28, 2016 2:53:11 GMT
I see the crossover of Cersei burning the Red Keep, and I just remembered Bran's montage featuring King Aerys and some green stuff, iirc. Was that supposed to be Aerys' stash of wildfire? Yes they can't do a simple let me burn a tower to show my level of insanity, they need to do a Twin Towers level of showing she's gone round the twist. And speaking of Bran's vision of the Mad King and the wildfire, yes the filling and storing of the wildfire was during his time, but the blowing up of the cache was a future vision. As we know the only time we've had wildfire go off in King's Landing was in the ships Tyrion put on the Blackwater. So in hindsight, we probably should've noticed that it was a subterranean explosion and not a ship at anchor.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 28, 2016 2:57:23 GMT
Why would the faith militant, or whatever they're called, stop the crowd from leaving? That did not make sense, to me. It would have been better if it all went down with only a rumbling before the big kaboom. I see the crossover of Cersei burning the Red Keep, and I just remembered Bran's montage featuring King Aerys and some green stuff, iirc. Was that supposed to be Aerys' stash of wildfire? I think they were making a show of things. Let this be a lesson to you and all that. Convicting Cersei would have been a big part of that. But the right answer to this question is most likely "because D&D needed them all there so they could die." On a rewatch, I could swear Cersei said Tommen should be with his grandfathers, his brother s, his sister. Did D&D actually remember they invented a black-haired baby that died? Or... yeah I dunno. The ToJ scene. There is blood all over the other side of the bed too, including the pillow. Baby and nurses perfectly clean, not a spot of blood. Now I don't know nothin bout birthin no babies, but something is whack. Oh and the Lyanna actress looks a lot like Dany.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 28, 2016 3:05:31 GMT
Oh and the Lyanna actress looks a lot like Dany. She does, doesn't she? I've only ever seen her in one other thing, The Fall, which I recommend highly, and even there it's amazing how her facial expressions mirror Emilia Clark's.
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Post by wolfmaid7 on Jun 28, 2016 3:07:27 GMT
Well I can just about guarantee you that particular nugget of information will not be a book spoiler. Honestly, two Aemon Targaryens at the Wall? At the same time? Just too corny for even Martin to consider. I mean the amount of people this must have gone through to make it on screen;nobody didn't call that shit? Ah, you still remember that post, do you? Truth be told, I never came close in that paragraph to summing up the whole theory. I provided the two names and the foundation of their connection, and sprinkled just a little bit more on top for flavor. That was it. And I think you're spot-on, re the complexity of a true revelation. GRRM knows the fandom will have a tremendous number of questions, and he'll need to find a way to answer most of them satisfactorily. And frankly, after such a tremendous setup for two decades now, I think he wants to do this mystery and solution full justice. So I think he'll provide a thorough explanation in TWOW or no revelation at all. I just hope not to read another LJ guilty post from him on Jan 1, 2017. "Another year has gone by, and Son of Kong is still on my back... sigh." I'm going to go all Rastafarian on your arse JNR....."Jah says message me the names." I'm on a parasite cleanse for a week so have pity.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 28, 2016 4:52:58 GMT
Question: Coldhanded Benjen reminds us of the Wall's magic, and tell us he can't pass. But Bloodraven told Bran that the Wall was no longer a barrier to the NK because he touched Bran during wibbly wobbly timey wimey time. So... what gives?
What kind of ward would apply to Coldhands but not the Night's King?
This is rhetorical really. The answer is probably that D&D screwed up by introducing Coldhands after Bran's tardisEncounter with the NK, instead of establishing Coldhand's problem passing the wall well before Bran even learns to ski the weirnet.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jun 28, 2016 5:07:51 GMT
Oh and another thing! I've been complaining that Jon never tells Sansa that he knows Bran is alive North of the Wall. It never freaking occurs to D&D to bring this up, with all the bastard talk and northern lovefest moot? The King in the North whose name is Stark! And he says he isn't a Stark. And Jon never says, guess what guys, a trueborn male Stark is alive! Seriously, what the hell were D&D thinking back when Jon and Sam had a throwaway conversation about Bran being alive? Was that only a device to get Locke (an invented character, kickass actor) up to Crasters? No thought of plot repercussions beyond that? Next thing bothering me: Petyr calling Sansa the future of the Starks, and calling Jon a motherless bastard born in the South. Uh wouldn't he also be fatherless if Rhaegar is dead? If Petyr knows he was born in the South and is half Stark, he's saying Ned's the father? I think I need to sleep on this - probably another screw up by the writers. You can't give Petyr knowing glances about crap in one season then have him say ridiculous contradictory stuff in the next.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 28, 2016 14:01:39 GMT
Did anyone catch the astrolabe chandelier in the Citadel's library? Did anyone know that for the low low price of $495 (before shipping and taxes), you too can have an official GoT astrolabe of your very own? Along with a pop-up book!
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jun 28, 2016 14:09:28 GMT
Next thing bothering me: Petyr calling Sansa the future of the Starks, and calling Jon a motherless bastard born in the South. Uh wouldn't he also be fatherless if Rhaegar is dead? If Petyr knows he was born in the South and is half Stark, he's saying Ned's the father? So. much. this. Ok, obviously Creepfinger the Omniscient is in the loop, no surprise there. Insert mental image of him watching the eruption of Vesuvius, handing Adams the quill to sign the Declaration, lurking in a corner of the Texas Book Depository, etc. But that comment....WHAT DOES IT MEAN? Also, the deliberate muffling of LyannaBaby name is telling. If Jon is meant to be a Targaryen and the show has already dropped all the Rhaegar connections, why not just reveal a Targ name to help viewers piece it together?? Unless..... 1) it isn't a Targaryen name or 2) it's a Targaryen name that will trigger another dastardly revelation, the third "holy shit" moment. ETA the underlined.....it makes even less sense because, um, NED IS DEAD TOO!
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Post by snowfyre on Jun 28, 2016 14:32:13 GMT
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Post by Melifeather on Jun 28, 2016 14:46:40 GMT
Did anyone catch the astrolabe chandelier in the Citadel's library? Did anyone know that for the low low price of $495 (before shipping and taxes), you too can have an official GoT astrolabe of your very own? Along with a pop-up book! Fabulous observation! Can we hope that the Citadel then knows about the wheel of time too? I would love it if the show ties this in somehow. There's got to be a Citadel conspiracy revelation by Sam next season!
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 28, 2016 14:57:50 GMT
I don't know that it matters about Bran being alive because it's not like the title of KitN is a hereditary one. Robb was crowned while on campaign, after he'd won some battles and Ned was killed. As a defiance and an honour, if you see what I mean. Little Bear only pulled that because as far as she's concerned she still wants vengeance for her family's death I think, judging from the way she shamed all the other lords. So Bran being alive would not make that any difference because he's not a proven battle commander and someone who will give them the vengeance and honour the north wants. The only reason the Boltons were tolerated was because they'd won and held the military strength. Who was it on the show that said the north isn't like the other 6 kingdoms, they will not follow because they're told to? They follow strength.
Oh and apparently everyone hates wildlings, even Bronze Yohn, yet another southern-ish lord with no reason to, does as well.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jun 28, 2016 15:10:11 GMT
Question: Coldhanded Benjen reminds us of the Wall's magic, and tell us he can't pass. But Bloodraven told Bran that the Wall was no longer a barrier to the NK because he touched Bran during wibbly wobbly timey wimey time. So... what gives? IIRC, BR says that the warding on the cave would not stop the NK, nothing about the Wall. Mind you though, he also said the NK marking Bran meant that the NK could now find him. Which then begs the question, if the NK had been looking for BR, as Leaf I think said, and they've been holed up in that tree for a thousand years, what the hell has the NK been doing? Are you seriously telling me that in a millennium the icy git couldn't have travelled from one weirwood to another and not found him? What? Were his barber appointments that long? Or perhaps it was the tailors what held him up?
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