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Post by alienarea on May 29, 2016 15:57:13 GMT
The spot on Bran's arm where he was touched by the Night's King looked a bit like Jorah's arm with the greyscale, didn't it?
Did the Children of the Forest or Bran create the Targaryens to battle the White Walkers and greyscale is a side effect of an early try?
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Post by Weasel Pie on May 29, 2016 16:03:27 GMT
The spot on Bran's arm where he was touched by the Night's King looked a bit like Jorah's arm with the greyscale, didn't it? Did the Children of the Forest or Bran create the Targaryens to battle the White Walkers and greyscale is a side effect of an early try? Garin used ... water magic (Mother Rhoyne) to fight fire (Volantis/Valyria), and that led to the Stone Men. So yes, I think there is a parallel there somehow. |
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Post by Ser Duncan on May 29, 2016 17:48:42 GMT
*note to self* Must get my greyscale theory together!
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jul 5, 2016 13:28:19 GMT
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Jul 5, 2016 14:31:21 GMT
LOL...and on that note...  |
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 5, 2016 17:08:30 GMT
The spot on Bran's arm where he was touched by the Night's King looked a bit like Jorah's arm with the greyscale, didn't it? Did the Children of the Forest or Bran create the Targaryens to battle the White Walkers and greyscale is a side effect of an early try? Garin used ... water magic (Mother Rhoyne) to fight fire (Volantis/Valyria), and that led to the Stone Men. So yes, I think there is a parallel there somehow. I agree that water magic was used against the fire of V/V...and had only thought about them as being the opposite of wights. It's like a magic virus or something. The wights are dead bodies, but their spirits are still in the bones and that's what is being animated...whereas the stone men are still alive, but their bodies are slowly turned to stone. You'd think they'd starve to death, but it seems they may be unable to die. |
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jul 5, 2016 17:19:07 GMT
You'd think they'd starve to death, but it seems they may be unable to die. The triarch still comes to feed them every few months, which is strange. And I've always been of the opinion that the stone men are immortal, and grey scale causes immortality somehow. There are very few cases of documented death by greyscale. They euthanize them north of the wall - Val makes a big deal of telling us that. And even the Greyjoy boy, the show tells us Euron killed him, and I'm not surprised because the books are ambiguous about it too. Might be a good new topic, I'll dig up some notes I have about it. |
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 5, 2016 17:21:40 GMT
You'd think they'd starve to death, but it seems they may be unable to die. The triarch still comes to feed them every few months, which is strange. And I've always been of the opinion that the stone men are immortal, and grey scale causes immortality somehow. There are very few cases of documented death by greyscale. They euthanize them north of the wall - Val makes a big deal of telling us that. And even the Greyjoy boy, the show tells us Euron killed him, and I'm not surprised because the books are ambiguous about it too. Might be a good new topic, I'll dig up some notes I have about it. The triarch feeds them?  I don't remember this! |
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jul 5, 2016 17:30:50 GMT
The triarch still comes to feed them every few months, which is strange. And I've always been of the opinion that the stone men are immortal, and grey scale causes immortality somehow. There are very few cases of documented death by greyscale. They euthanize them north of the wall - Val makes a big deal of telling us that. And even the Greyjoy boy, the show tells us Euron killed him, and I'm not surprised because the books are ambiguous about it too. Might be a good new topic, I'll dig up some notes I have about it. The triarch feeds them? I don't remember this! Wiki From ADWD 18 - Tyrion V |
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 5, 2016 20:20:37 GMT
The triarch feeds them? I don't remember this! Wiki From ADWD 18 - Tyrion V That's bizarre! I knew I was missing something, because I was wondering how in the world the stone men were congregating in one place on the Rhoynar? This now sounds almost like being sent to the Wall, because what's to stop people from leaving? And who would dare deliver food if the stone men attack like they did Tyrion's group? |
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Post by Weasel Pie on Jul 5, 2016 20:35:05 GMT
That's bizarre! I knew I was missing something, because I was wondering how in the world the stone men were congregating in one place on the Rhoynar? This now sounds almost like being sent to the Wall, because what's to stop people from leaving? And who would dare deliver food if the stone men attack like they did Tyrion's group? It stuck with me for all those reasons. In a world where greyscale is considered a death sentence, feeding/caring for them there is so different from slitting their throats north of the wall. Completely opposite ways of treating them. When you say like being sent to the Wall.. whoa! me like. Another inversion I think. Walls and bridges could be similar no, like our inverted towers with wells/tunnels? |
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 5, 2016 23:08:38 GMT
That's bizarre! I knew I was missing something, because I was wondering how in the world the stone men were congregating in one place on the Rhoynar? This now sounds almost like being sent to the Wall, because what's to stop people from leaving? And who would dare deliver food if the stone men attack like they did Tyrion's group? It stuck with me for all those reasons. In a world where greyscale is considered a death sentence, feeding/caring for them there is so different from slitting their throats north of the wall. Completely opposite ways of treating them. When you say like being sent to the Wall.. whoa! me like. Another inversion I think. Walls and bridges could be similar no, like our inverted towers with wells/tunnels? The stone men's "wall" is their hardened exterior, and their stiffened bodies prevent them from leaving, but they are very similar to the Nights Watch, now that we're discussing this. It's a life sentence. |
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Post by Ser Duncan on Jul 6, 2016 1:39:15 GMT
When you say like being sent to the Wall.. whoa! me like. Another inversion I think. Walls and bridges could be similar no, like our inverted towers with wells/tunnels? Walls and bridges are inversions of each other in every sense. A wall separates two places, a bridge unites them. However a wall with a gap unites two places, while a bridge with a gap separates them. Wall = broken bridge; bridge = broken wall. |
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Post by Melifeather on Jul 6, 2016 1:52:45 GMT
When you say like being sent to the Wall.. whoa! me like. Another inversion I think. Walls and bridges could be similar no, like our inverted towers with wells/tunnels? Walls and bridges are inversions of each other in every sense. A wall separates two places, a bridge unites them. However a wall with a gap unites two places, while a bridge with a gap separates them. Wall = broken bridge; bridge = broken wall. Great observations! Isn't it fun how our discussions continue to find something new in these books? It's crazy! And this particular subject is really interesting. Do you think this would spark continued discussion? |
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Post by Maester Flagons on Jul 6, 2016 2:05:17 GMT
Cool observations. Passing under the Bridge of Dream and under the Wall... could that be something? Actually, now that I think on it, Bran passed the wall twice. The first time he 'flew' above it in a 'dream.' The second time he passed under it. Tyrion passed under the bridge twice, also. Hmmm.
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I don't remember this!