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Post by Ser Duncan on Oct 17, 2016 1:13:06 GMT
If Elliot is Tyrell, why did Angela call him Tyrell on the phone, and indicate that she wanted to be there when "he" woke up...implying Elliot.
Do we need spoilers? Is everyone up to date? I think we should stick with the spoilers just in case someone else wants to watch. I thought about that, Angela talking with Tyrell, and I think it could work like this. Remember when Mr Robot was shooting Elliot in the head all the time? Elliot said the first time he thought he'd died. Then he woke up. Combine that with all the stuff Mr Robot was hiding from Elliot, the codes, the talking with others etc. So when he blanks out at the end, Tyrell takes over. Mr Robot is seen fading as Elliot bleeds because he's no longer needed, Elliot now knows everything Mr R was trying to hide from him, including the fact that anyone trying to stop phase 2 would be shot. So I think we've come full circle with Tyrell now taking over where Mr R can't because Elliot knows all about him. I mean if he can have an entire relationship with a figment of his imagination once, then create an entire alternate reality to cope with being in jail, what's so strange about Elliot being Tyrell too? Plus, we need to keep in mind that the last two episodes are really one story, a story that starts with Elliot going into a lucid dream in order to find out what Mr R's been up to and what happened to Tyrell. In other words he switches roles with Mr R. Mr R is in control while Elliot observes. Remember last series Mr R had no idea that Darlene was Elliot's sister, so why would he have any idea if Tyrell is another personality? And Angela knows Elliot's got split personalities, she's shown us this series she'll do whatever it takes to get where she needs to be. I can see her playing along with the Tyrell persona if it helps her achieve her ends too.
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Post by Melifeather on Oct 17, 2016 2:29:11 GMT
What about the FBI chart? Both Dom and Darlene were looking at a chart with a picture of Tyrell above Elliot.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Oct 17, 2016 15:38:10 GMT
For the longest time I was thinking that Tyrell Wellick is a fictional persona that Elliot has brought to "life" online. Remember in S1 when Elliot was searching himself online but came up with nothing, but found a ton of totally vanilla stuff on Tyrell? He made a comment about how Tyrell had the ideal internet life, all happy photos on Facebook and immaculate bio - a background that could have easily been crafted to the perfect specifications. If Elliot is actually Tyrell, he could float between the two worlds and use Tyrell's image as his public "face" - no one would really know the difference at E-Corp. The FBI would then use that public face for the investigation. I was also thinking that this is why Gideon was killed - he would have been the only person besides maybe Angela that learned Elliot WAS Tyrell, so had to be silenced.
However, that wouldn't really explain E-Corp's lack of reaction to all of the news coverage using that public face of Tyrell Wellick. We're shown multiple media shots of the Tyrell Wellick face, and you'd think that Phillip Price would be like, "Hey, this guy on TV/on the cover of US Weekly isn't the same guy I canned a month ago", so there's that inconsistency.
It's funny because there is WAY more evidence to suggest that Elliot and Tyrell are one and the same, and there are numerous ways to get around most of the seemingly contradictory situations, but there are a few tiny details that do actually lead to big contradictions that can't be explained away.
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Post by Melifeather on Oct 17, 2016 16:40:31 GMT
But what about Joanna? Tyrell's wife? she asked Elliot to trace the cell phone that she thought Tyrell was calling her on. I think there was an obvious feint when Elliot asked Joanna if she talked to Tyrell, because he thought he was dead. This feint was also to cause the audience to wonder if Tyrell is also Elliot, but I don't think he is. I don't think there are two personalities for Elliot, but I do think we'll be surprised by how they're connected. Maybe Tyrell is a brother? Maybe even Angela's brother.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Oct 17, 2016 19:34:07 GMT
I'm trying to work this out but what if Elliot isn't Tyrell. Tyrell is Elliot.
I need to rewatch of course but from their first meeting, it's a closed loop between them. And in their last meeting in the SUV in the paid parking space, the attendant seems totally cool with Elliot, and there's nothing amiss other than he's overstayed his welcome.
And Tyrell's wife, seems like she's used to Tyrell disappearing.
There were a bunch of other things, will try to jot them down.
/crackpot
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Nov 5, 2016 20:18:15 GMT
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Post by Weasel Pie on Oct 11, 2017 21:24:04 GMT
Premiere tonight! 10PM Eastern on USA. Cannot wait.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Oct 12, 2017 14:07:17 GMT
... I have no idea what I watched. I turned on closed captioning half way through and it helped. A bit.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Oct 12, 2017 21:07:30 GMT
So look. lol. I loved this show, and I was really into the uncertainty of Elliot's character, but. But.
My two favorite characters - Tyrell and Angela - seem relegated to a no-man's land of "are they or aren't they?" Everything that was original and compelling about the characters is just... gone. Angela's humanity is gone. Tyrell's brilliance is gone. And we're supposed to believe they were both playing along with Mr. Robot for some collective higher-calling that hasn't even been fully explained.
I dunno folks. I hope I see some redemption in the next couple of episodes. Once the cat got out of Elliot's bag - OK WE GET IT. Prolonging the joke is torture at this point. Vignettes with cool lighting and oddball acting prompts do not a plot make.
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Post by Melifeather on Oct 13, 2017 0:21:48 GMT
Freaky-deaky. I'm barely following along.
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Post by Melifeather on Oct 26, 2017 3:08:21 GMT
Finally! Tonight's episode was interesting seeing the backstory from mostly Tyrell's side.
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Post by Melifeather on Dec 14, 2017 4:59:21 GMT
I really enjoyed this season, and the finale was engrossing. Lots of loose ends tied up, but I felt horrible for Dom. That last kicker was bizarre. I suppose it’s the beginning to next season.
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