Follow the Wyllas

I've wondered perhaps if GRRM isn't setting up the Quiet Isle as Lyanna's final resting place:

I find the beehive reference particularly interesting since GRRM in a Song for Lya had a character named Lyanna whose consciousness upon her death entered into an alien "hive mind".

ETA: I also found the references to salt and smoke kind of interesting here as well.

Not reliably.

Now, Lyanna was at Winterfell when she told Ned that Robert was not the sort to stick to one bed:

When was this, though?
Some from RLJ argue it was after Harrenhal that Lyanna and Robert became betrothed and therefore, Lyanna went back to Winterfell.

I'm not so sure. The World book says quite clearly that at Harrenhal:

Meaning Lyanna did not become betrothed after Harrenhal, and hence can't be located at Winterfell, at that time, in that way.

But the World book is of course packed full of BS. So it's hard to say.

Indeed. It certainly makes me think that she died prior to/independently of the showdown at the TOJ corral, that's for sure.

Tentatively we can place her "not ten leagues from Harrenhal" per TWOIAF, but that's it...and that's only if you buy into this piece of truthiness from the World Book.



Not certain about her final resting place, but I'm certain she was there at one point. GRRM didn't drop in all that info about the women's huts and noble girls and such into EB's conversation with Brienne for nothing. Funny also that per the official maps in Lands, the Quiet Isle is probably about "ten leagues from Harrenhal".

This could actually lend support to Robert + Lyanna = Jon

The Red Lot might know more about the fiery greenseer (the great wolf and the man limned in flame) than we know; especially since they send someone to both Stannis and Robert.    It's also curious that Garth VI Gardener was called morningstar.  Something that shows up with Jon when he looks out the window at the wall and sees the morningstar.  How many times has Melisandre seen Jon in her fires, 'limned in flame'.  She keeps asking R'Hllor to show her his instrument; she sees BR, Bran and then Jon.  Also curiously; Jon has burned his right hand when fighting Othor.  Does this make him the fiery hand of R'hllor.  Also, the sigil of house Gardener is a green hand and it's the left hand.

This wouldn't support Ned finding her on the Quiet Isle; but it could support her staying there and taking ship elsewhere.  Or she was taken by Aerys with her father's party and ended up a war hostage with Ned eventually finding her at Castle Wyl with Jon.  Since I can't really dismiss that entirely.

Regardless of Robert's roaming eye; Ned is convinced that he loved her and Benjen might be echoing that knowledge when he tells Jon that he can't know what it means to love a woman. 

Well, I'm quite surprised at this connection. That Melisandre expects to find AA basically with the Baratheon bloodline, makes some sense if you get the connection between Garth Greenhand and the Storm Lords especially if the man limned in flame is a fiery greenseer. It's the business of the Gardeners and their connection to the CotF along with that quote about taming the wolf pups to protect them when the wolves come, that jumps out.


'Let them be brothers'; Jon Flowers Jon Morningstar, Crown of Roses. This is way off the beaten path. I like the morningstar reference because it's a weapon for one but Jon sees the morning star in the shape of a sword. With all the dawn sword symbolism around Jon; I'm wondering if the Dawn Sword should be called the Morningstar, infused with it's own light. Up to this point, it's why I thought the Dayne bloodline was more important for that connection.

Of course I can see this happening at the Tourney and Robert not remembering a damn thing. This might be the reason that Rhaegar gives Lyanna the crown in the first place with a more subtle underlying message.

The counter argument will be that Jon doesn't have the Baratheon bastard look. He looks more like Ned or Lyanna. I find it a bit suspicious that Varys has no interest in Jon. I think that's because he's not Rhaegar's or Aerys' offspring. If there was some gossip about her at the Tourney; he'd likely get wind of it.

There is an association between Garth Greenhands and the Manderleys.  This is where we get the second Wylla reference.  It's also a location with so many allusions to Jon.  Jon Stark ice eyes who came down to the Wolf's Den to meet out justice to the slavers.  The old connection to the Karstarks and their sigil - the winter sun/son.  The white knife or the palestone sword?  Bran sees Jon as pale as stone at the Wall.

Although I get the sense that Dany is Lightbringer in her aspect of the crone carrying the lantern.  She does become one of the crones after Drogo dies but she doesn't immediately go back to Vaes Dothrak.  Dany still has to pass beneath the shadow of the Mother of Mountains to touch the light. Then she has to travel east continuously until she crosses to Sunset Sea to arrive at Westeros. Beginning in the South (at Starfall); travel north to the wall.  If she is Ashara's daughter she might then come across the Dawn sword and take it where it needs to go.  That is if Jon is meant to have the sword and she is the one who brings the light and Euron doesn't get to it first.  

But I still don't know what IOF stands for