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Post by Melifeather on Aug 31, 2017 17:54:49 GMT
Did anyone catch this in the finale? Question is why the NK would pattern his army in the shape of the Stark sigil I'm also still very suspicious at the placement of Longclaw in the last episode, and how the wolf head was prominently displayed when Jon - doesn't die. Did not notice, but did see an online pic with Bran and the Nights King side by side and they both have on the same neck pin. A diamond shaped fastener of some type.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 31, 2017 17:57:27 GMT
they both have on the same neck Unfortunately that pic of Bran with the pin has been debunked as a fake. But it doesn't explain why the silhouettes of Bran, Jon and the NK are so similar.
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Post by Melifeather on Aug 31, 2017 18:00:40 GMT
they both have on the same neck Unfortunately that pic of Bran with the pin has been debunked as a fake. But it doesn't explain why the silhouettes of Bran, Jon and the NK are so similar. Damn fake news. lol
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Post by Melifeather on Sept 1, 2017 0:13:58 GMT
They are just. So. Damn. Smug.
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Sept 1, 2017 0:43:38 GMT
They are just. So. Damn. Smug. I know. I got seriously grumpy reading that. I hope George takes a big steaming dump all over their "practically canon" just for that smugness.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Sept 1, 2017 1:20:35 GMT
The stupid part is that Ran has been all holier-than-everyone, refusing to participate in Linda's showcasts, etc. You know it's true Elio. But as soon as "RLJ is confirmed!" he's on it like wight on rice.
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Post by Weasel Pie on Sept 1, 2017 1:37:30 GMT
Melifeather just putting this out there - Theon is heading to Pyke to rescue his kidnapped sister. Could be something interesting there.
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Post by Melifeather on Sept 1, 2017 16:16:42 GMT
Melifeather just putting this out there - Theon is heading to Pyke to rescue his kidnapped sister. Could be something interesting there. Well...you know there was something suspicious in The Reaver AFFC chapter 29 about Tahlbart Serry and Ragnor Pyke. First my opinions as to the parallels: Victarion = Aegor Bittersteal Blackfyre Tahlbart Serry aka the knight of the white rose = chosen heir The white rose = Bloodraven's white dragon sigil Euron the Crow's Eye = Bloodraven Ragnor Pyke = The Lord Reaper Torwyn Greyjoy who swore a blood oath to Aegor Bittersteal The Reaver AFFC chapter 29Victarion makes a point of asking about Talbart Serry again, “That knight,” he grumbled, “the knight of the white rose. Did any of you pull him out?” If Serry had survived he could have been used for ransom. Victarion thinks he drowned, and later we have Margaery’s report that Lord Serry’s son and heir was indeed slain. The emphasis on "Serry" and the "white rose" makes me think we should pay attention here. In this chapter it is my opinion that Victarion is mirroring Aegor aka "Bittersteal", and that the white rose may be symbolic of Bloodraven's white dragon sigil. Should we suspect that Aegor arranged to have Bloodraven's chosen heir for the throne taken as hostage? Or in an inversion version, did Bloodraven find a way to conceal the heir? Ultimately it may have been Aegor’s fault that Brynden Rivers went to the Wall. Brynden did whatever it took to prevent a Blackfyre from succeeding, even going so far as to perform dishonorable things like luring Aenys Blackfyre to Kings Landing only to behead him. This was the act that prompted Aegon V to send Brynden to the Wall, and after 13 years as Lord Commander, Brynden went missing. This is echoed in The Reaver by having none of Victarion’s men knowing what became of Ser Serry after he went over the side. The white rose's knight or heir went missing. We learned in The Drowned Man that the north is the sea where the Drowned God now resides, and symbolically it's as if Bloodraven went missing when he went "over" into the sea. I'm thinking Serry’s white rose may represent Bloodraven’s white dragon sigil. Victarion thought Serry had drowned. “May he feast as he fought, in the Drowned God’s watery halls.” and he further elaborates thinking, “A brave man…almost ironborn.” The Greyjoys are reliving the fates of the Blackfyres - the illegitimate Targaryens - therefore Bloodraven's chosen heir that went missing was “almost ironborn” or in other words, an illegitimate or fake Targaryen. (Please say this isn't evidence that Jon is a bastard Targaryen!) Victarion gave Serry’s ship to Ragnor Pyke, named a dozen men to crew her, and clambered back up onto his own Iron Victory. He disarmed his captives, asked Nute the Barber to take care of the wounded, and throw the dying into the sea. (recall north of the Wall is also a sea) If they asked for mercy he was to cut their throats. He commanded a count of ships won, knights and lordlings captured, and he wanted their banners to hang in his hall so he could look at them and remember this day. My translation: Ragnor Pyke is meant to echo Lord Reaper Torwyn Greyjoy who swore, but later broke, a blood oath to Aegor Rivers. Was Greyjoy supposed to ferry away a Targaryen heir, but broke his promise? I also see echoes of Bloodraven’s honor-breaking when he tricked Aenys Blackfyre. In this way Bloodraven is both Nute the Barber and the Lord Reaper since Aenys was lured with the promise of safe passage and then beheaded. Nute congratulates Victarion on a great victory. "Aye", he thought, " a great victory for the Crow’s Eye and his wizards." Of course Euron is the Crow's Eye and Bloodraven is his inversion, so “Euron’s wizards” may be the Children. Was this a victory for Bloodraven or a crushing defeat? Do these passages describe what led to Rhaegar's son Aegon's death, or do they describe his son's survival by being taken and hidden away? Was his identity and location kept doubly safe by tricking anyone looking further into thinking Jon was Rhaegar's son? Going back to the second paragraph above, is Jon a fake Targaryen?
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