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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 13:31:50 GMT
What do we say to the god of death? Not today. So my daughter was in a Game of Thrones dead pool where you were supposed to choose who would die first from this list: Bran Stark Jon Snow Theon Greyjoy Daenerys Cersei Lannister Tyrion Lannister Jamie Lannister Samwell Tarly Jorah Mormont Brienne of Tarth Ser Davos Tormund I told her to pick Tormund, and I think he died! I could have swore I saw his eyes turn blue, but I could be wrong. The whole episode was very dark and hard to see. Can anybody confirm if he's still alive for sure? Bring out your dead! Here are characters that did die: Qhono and all the Dothraki screamers Lord Commander Dolorous Edd Tollett Lyanna Mormont died spectacularly! Beric Dondarrion Theon was a badass, and he died bravely Arya kills the Nights King, which apparently was the head domino Viserion the wighted dragon  Jorah dies defending Dany - very touching actually, bittersweet. Melisandre takes off her ruby, ages quickly and dies The strangest, but oddly IMO the most heartwarming, was to watch Sansa and Tyrion reconnect in the crypts. Tyrion would have made Sansa happy if she could have gotten past his size and, in the books, hideous features.  The most incredulous scene was when Arya used the dagger Bran gave her to stab the Night's King, and then see every other white walker shatter, and every wight (including Viserion) fall to the ground.  The most confusing scene was for some of the dead in the crypts to break free of their warded tombs and try to kill the people hiding down there. I guess I assumed the dead Starks without swords would rise to help defeat the white walkers. I was thinking once a couple of them rose to help that somebody would rush down and remove all the swords so they could all rise.  The stupidest scene was to have Sandor Clegane freeze and refuse to fight again.  Bran just pissed me off, because he doesn't warn people at all, and I'm assuming he wasn't worried, because he knew Arya would kill the Night's King.  The best effect was the darkness descending upon Winterfell with an ice so cold that fires were having trouble staying lit. When the Dothraki swords went out - that was very cool! Valar morghulis. Feel free to praise or vent! |
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Post by cooterian19 on Apr 29, 2019 14:39:15 GMT
Boy, did they peg the title of that Episode (The Long Night). I suppose we all now know what's waiting for us in 5 years if Universal Studios decides to add a Westeros theme park. The big ride will be dark and you'll be in the middle of a snow storm and can't see shit! Okay, who killed the Night King? What I thought I saw was Arya leaping from above only to be caught in mid air by the Night Kings and kept hoisted up high. Then, the dagger appeared to fall and landed in someone's hand, who then stabbed the Nights King. I thought it was Bran who caught the dagger and stabbed him from behind. If it was Arya...then she is supremely bad ass; if Bran, what poetic justice to use the knife that was intended for him. Another question....why have the White Walkers at all in the episode? They don't didn't do anything except hold their ice spears and walk into the godswood at the end with the NK. Yeah, the Winterfell Crypts went out with a whimper. No back doors and certainly the iron swords didn't keep anyone in their coffin. I suppose it was a good backdrop for Sansa and Tyrion to reunite. I did enjoy the opening where Melissandre sets the Dothraki ankh's on fire and then they sped off into battle. You just knew when you saw all of those fire swords from a distance that things were going to go horribly bad....and boy, did they. Before I forget....I was wrong on both accounts. No Nissa Nissa with Jon and Dany and no Melissandre with a bunch of red priests showing up to save the day. I'll try and think up another two predictions that wont come true and post later in the week.  P.S. Overall it was a good weekend for me as I was able to watch Endgame on Saturday and then GOT last night. Talk about 4-1/2 hours of anticipated viewing. |
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 14:51:02 GMT
Okay, who killed the Night King? What I thought I saw was Arya leaping from above only to be caught in mid air by the Night Kings and kept hoisted up high. Then, the dagger appeared to fall and landed in someone's hand, who then stabbed the Nights King. I thought it was Bran who caught the dagger and stabbed him from behind. If it was Arya...then she is supremely bad ass; if Bran, what poetic justice to use the knife that was intended for him. Arya dropped the dagger from her left hand to her right. Before I forget....I was wrong on both accounts. No Nissa Nissa with Jon and Dany and no Melissandre with a bunch of red priests showing up to save the day. I'll try and think up another two predictions that wont come true and post later in the week. You do know that the books and the show will be very different from each other? GRRM said the show will have the same 'high notes' as the books, but high notes could be as broad as Jon learns his true parentage, the Wall comes down, and Daenerys returns to Westeros. The devil is in the details as to how it actually goes down. I thought when Jon was running on the ground that somehow he would become Azor Ahai, but I guess they wanted us to believe Jon was going to be the hero and save the day in order to surprise us with the real hero, Arya. I haven't seen Endgame yet, so no spoilers! We have two movie theaters in town, and the "cheap theatre" is an antique and ornate old-school theatre and they have THE best popcorn, so we're trying to wait it out until they can show it so we can watch it there. |
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 15:11:09 GMT
The most incredulous scene was when Arya used the dagger Bran gave her to stab the Night's King, and then see every other white walker shatter, and every wight (including Viserion) fall to the ground. This was actually a pretty clever twist on D & D's part, because the dagger is the same one that Littlefinger identified as Tyrion's when Joffrey sent that man to kill Bran, but ended up being thwarted by mommy dearest, Catelyn Stark. To use the same blade to save Bran as being the same blade meant to kill him was a pretty slick move by the show. I did enjoy the opening where Melissandre sets the Dothraki ankh's on fire and then they sped off into battle. You just knew when you saw all of those fire swords from a distance that things were going to go horribly bad....and boy, did they. I agree. Very reminiscent of the song about how the very first Night's Watch rode out to defeat the Others in the Battle for the Dawn. So much for burning arakhs - the shape of which seem to echo the burning comet and the imagery of the shattered moon that gave birth to dragons. |
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Post by cooterian19 on Apr 29, 2019 15:50:34 GMT
One more question about Arya. Was she hiding in the weirwood tree just above Bran and then dropped down on the Night Kings, or was she borrowing Harry Potters "Cloak of Invisibility" to sneak past the White Walkers?
I had someone tell me that she had taken a face from the white walker, but in order to do that you would have had to kill them with dragonglass or valyrian steel....which last time I checked they basically shatter into a million pieces (at least that's what they do on the show version).
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 16:02:21 GMT
One more question about Arya. Was she hiding in the weirwood tree just above Bran and then dropped down on the Night Kings, or was she borrowing Harry Potters "Cloak of Invisibility" to sneak past the White Walkers? I had someone tell me that she had taken a face from the white walker, but in order to do that you would have had to kill them with dragonglass or valyrian steel....which last time I checked they basically shatter into a million pieces (at least that's what they do on the show version). They never showed how Arya got from the castle to the godswood. The scene before she was just saved by Beric Dondarrion and Sandor Clegane, then she came face to face with Melisandre who reminded her, "what do we say to the god of death?" It's funny, because I said, "not today" before Arya did. My BF and his son looked at me and asked, "how did you know she was going to say that?" LOL, they know I'm a ASOIAF geek, but they really have no idea how much.  So, I'm not sure how she snuck past all the wights and white walkers, but IMO it was something along the lines of how she avoided them in the library - through stealth. I agree there's no way to put on the face of a white walker, because you wouldn't be able to skin something made of ice. |
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Post by freyfamilyreunion on Apr 29, 2019 18:46:38 GMT
One more question about Arya. Was she hiding in the weirwood tree just above Bran and then dropped down on the Night Kings, or was she borrowing Harry Potters "Cloak of Invisibility" to sneak past the White Walkers? I had someone tell me that she had taken a face from the white walker, but in order to do that you would have had to kill them with dragonglass or valyrian steel....which last time I checked they basically shatter into a million pieces (at least that's what they do on the show version). Yea, if I was the Night King I'd be pretty pissed at my subordinates. I mean, they had one job to do, watch his back as he killed the crippled kid, and they couldn't do that right.
By the way, how much do you want to bet that the book that Arya threw to distract the wights was a half finished manuscript for Winds of Winter?
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 19:55:57 GMT
Yea, if I was the Night King I'd be pretty pissed at my subordinates. I mean, they had one job to do, watch his back as he killed the crippled kid, and they couldn't do that right. By the way, how much do you want to bet that the book that Arya threw to distract the wights was a half finished manuscript for Winds of Winter?   |
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Post by cooterian19 on Apr 29, 2019 20:28:45 GMT
So I went back and watched that final scene and it's as plain as day, Arya killing the NK. Not sure how I missed it in the first place, I'm sure staring at a black screen for 80 minutes had nothing to do with it.
Looking on the bright side (no pun intended) next week's Cimetography at Kings Landing shows a well lit set production. I suppose I bought the night goggles for nothing.
One more thought on Arya's ninja mode. Right before she jumps in mid air, they flash to a white walker and his hair moves as if disturbed by an abrupt movement in the air. The next scene is Arya coming down on top of the NK only to be caught in mid air by the neck. She then drops the dagger to her right hand and presto....problem solved.
As for the Cersei thing....Tyrion just needs to tell Arya to sneak into Kings Landing (she's done it before), kill Qybourn, take his face and then polish off Cersei. Piece of cake. Of course, this would mean not getting to see the Golden Company half scorched before they start loosing the scorpion bolts at Dany and her dragon.
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 20:39:26 GMT
So I went back and watched that final scene and it's as plain as day, Arya killing the NK. Not sure how I missed it in the first place, I'm sure staring at a black screen for 80 minutes had nothing to do with it. Looking on the bright side (no pun intended) next week's Cimetography at Kings Landing shows a well lit set production. I suppose I bought the night goggles for nothing. One more thought on Arya's ninja mode. Right before she jumps in mid air, they flash to a white walker and his hair moves as if disturbed by an abrupt movement in the air. The next scene is Arya coming down on top of the NK only to be caught in mid air by the neck. She then drops the dagger to her right hand and presto....problem solved. As for the Cersei thing....Tyrion just needs to tell Arya to sneak into Kings Landing (she's done it before), kill Qybourn, take his face and then polish off Cersei. Piece of cake. Of course, this would mean not getting to see the Golden Company half scorched before they start loosing the scorpion bolts at Dany and her dragon. Did you happen to look for Tormund? I think he might be dead and they just didn't make a big scene for him. |
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Post by cooterian19 on Apr 29, 2019 20:47:35 GMT
So I went back and watched that final scene and it's as plain as day, Arya killing the NK. Not sure how I missed it in the first place, I'm sure staring at a black screen for 80 minutes had nothing to do with it. Looking on the bright side (no pun intended) next week's Cimetography at Kings Landing shows a well lit set production. I suppose I bought the night goggles for nothing. One more thought on Arya's ninja mode. Right before she jumps in mid air, they flash to a white walker and his hair moves as if disturbed by an abrupt movement in the air. The next scene is Arya coming down on top of the NK only to be caught in mid air by the neck. She then drops the dagger to her right hand and presto....problem solved. As for the Cersei thing....Tyrion just needs to tell Arya to sneak into Kings Landing (she's done it before), kill Qybourn, take his face and then polish off Cersei. Piece of cake. Of course, this would mean not getting to see the Golden Company half scorched before they start loosing the scorpion bolts at Dany and her dragon. Did you happen to look for Tormund? I think he might be dead and they just didn't make a big scene for him. I did not watch the episode again in its entirety; merely found a short 2 minute clip on line and watch Arya go Full Faceless Men on the NK. As for Tormund, I did see a list on line of those that bit the dust and his name did not come up. The person you may have saw was a guest appearance by Chris Stapleton, the Country Music star. Everyone is wanting to get on the band wagon. |
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 20:58:31 GMT
The person you may have saw was a guest appearance by Chris Stapleton, the Country Music star. Everyone is wanting to get on the band wagon. LOL, What! Chris Stapleton!  I'll have to go on HBO GO to get to the scene I recall and see if it's Chris Stapleton or Tormund! |
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 21:09:20 GMT
I googled "Chris Stapleton" on GOT and the images that came up are not what I thought was Tormund. The face I saw was nearly completely facing the camera. I can't view HBO GO on my iMac for some reason and I left my laptop at my BF house. As soon as I locate the image I'll try to take a screen shot.
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Post by Melifeather on Apr 29, 2019 23:17:54 GMT
Can someone help me take a screenshot? If you have HBO GO, I'm trying to capture the man who's eyes turn blue at 1:01:14. This is who I think might be Tormund.
If he's dead, his last scene alive on screen is roughly 58:21 - 58:28.
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Post by ac on Apr 30, 2019 0:30:09 GMT
Seems like the HBO GO app doesn't allow you take a screenshot, at least the is happening to me. However, it looks like Tormund is alive with Gendry the shot just before it cuts to Lyanna Morning "reanimating".
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