Post by min on Mar 16, 2022 16:45:24 GMT
Of Garnets and Pomegranates:
There is a connection between these two things that isn't obvious at first. GRRM has made much of gemstones in general, specifically rubies; so I was curious about the meaning of garnets to this story:
One would expect rubies to represent Ghosts eyes instead of garnets. By accident of design garnets are associated with pomegranate seeds.
Pomegranates are also referred to as the fruit of the dead and the blood of Adonis
It could be said the both Jon and Ghost are the fruit of the dead with their mothers dying in childbirth. This would make Lyanna a Persephone figure, kidnapped by the Hades the god of the underworld and hidden for a time. In our story, the gods of the underworld are the Greenseers. Which begs the question around the circumstances of Lyanna's kidnapping and disappearance.
In the myth of Persephone, she falls in love with a handsome youth and demi-god Adonis who is killed by a boar. His blood turned into pomegranate seeds.
We have this description of Robert:
Like Adonis, Robert is also killed by a boar. So is the seed of the pomegranate, the blood of Robert and is Jon the fruit of that seed or bloodline?
Jon Arryn says the seed is strong in his fevered ramblings, something that becomes associated with Robert's bastards and also with Robert Strong who sired sixteen bastards like King Robert. What is the connection?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITmOWZcXus
There is a connection between these two things that isn't obvious at first. GRRM has made much of gemstones in general, specifically rubies; so I was curious about the meaning of garnets to this story:
A Game of Thrones - Jon VIII
Awkwardly, Jon took the sword in hand. His left hand; his bandaged right was still too raw and clumsy. Carefully he pulled it from its scabbard and raised it level with his eyes.
The pommel was a hunk of pale stone weighted with lead to balance the long blade. It had been carved into the likeness of a snarling wolf's head, with chips of garnet set into the eyes.
Awkwardly, Jon took the sword in hand. His left hand; his bandaged right was still too raw and clumsy. Carefully he pulled it from its scabbard and raised it level with his eyes.
The pommel was a hunk of pale stone weighted with lead to balance the long blade. It had been carved into the likeness of a snarling wolf's head, with chips of garnet set into the eyes.
One would expect rubies to represent Ghosts eyes instead of garnets. By accident of design garnets are associated with pomegranate seeds.
The name pomegranate derives from medieval Latin pōmum "apple" and grānātum "seeded".[5] Possibly stemming from the old French word for the fruit, pomme-grenade, the pomegranate was known in early English as "apple of Grenada"—a term which today survives only in heraldic blazons. This is a folk etymology, confusing the Latin granatus with the name of the Spanish city of Granada, which derives from Arabic.[6]
Garnet derives from Old French grenat by metathesis, from Medieval Latin granatum as used in a different meaning "of a dark red color". This derivation may have originated from pomum granatum, describing the color of pomegranate pulp, or from granum, referring to "red dye, cochineal".[7]
Garnet derives from Old French grenat by metathesis, from Medieval Latin granatum as used in a different meaning "of a dark red color". This derivation may have originated from pomum granatum, describing the color of pomegranate pulp, or from granum, referring to "red dye, cochineal".[7]
Symbol of death and fertility In Greek mythology, the pomegranate was known as the ‘fruit of the dead’ as it was said to have arisen from the blood of Adonis. Hades, God of the underworld, used pomegranate seeds to trick Persephone into returning to the underworld for a few months of every year.
In the myth of Persephone, she falls in love with a handsome youth and demi-god Adonis who is killed by a boar. His blood turned into pomegranate seeds.
We have this description of Robert:
A Game of Thrones - Eddard XV
He found himself thinking of Robert more and more. He saw the king as he had been in the flower of his youth, tall and handsome, his great antlered helm on his head, his warhammer in hand, sitting his horse like a horned god
He found himself thinking of Robert more and more. He saw the king as he had been in the flower of his youth, tall and handsome, his great antlered helm on his head, his warhammer in hand, sitting his horse like a horned god
Like Adonis, Robert is also killed by a boar. So is the seed of the pomegranate, the blood of Robert and is Jon the fruit of that seed or bloodline?
Jon Arryn says the seed is strong in his fevered ramblings, something that becomes associated with Robert's bastards and also with Robert Strong who sired sixteen bastards like King Robert. What is the connection?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITmOWZcXus
