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Post by Maester Flagons on Mar 21, 2016 17:19:23 GMT
I just want the answers; even if they are made up. You watch the show, right?
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Post by min on Mar 21, 2016 17:27:13 GMT
LOL! That depends if I can afford HBO. I plan to splurge. I have started on the Hinges of the World and it needs a lot more work. I can't fail my initiation or I'll run away. I did send a first draft over to Slowfyre for vetting but he was just too polite. I need to know if it has a logical consistency because I'm not strong that way.
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Post by Melifeather on Mar 21, 2016 17:35:35 GMT
Try us here. Whatcha got?
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Post by min on Mar 21, 2016 17:46:05 GMT
I don't have enough to present at this point. Nothing I'd want people to see. I'll send you an email.
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Post by Melifeather on Mar 21, 2016 19:18:04 GMT
I don't have enough to present at this point. Nothing I'd want people to see. I'll send you an email. We should have brought some of your message into this thread, because I want to get Some Pig's take on a possible new development. As readers we already suspect that something went awry when the Wall went up as evidenced by the wacky seasons with winters and summers lasting years, but it occurred to me that maybe the Wheel of Time is broke and the current cast of characters are destined to repeat the past lives of their counterparts? Some Pig No Doubt , have you found anything similar in your Dr Strange/Marvel research?
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Post by min on Mar 21, 2016 19:29:14 GMT
Feel free to post the bits you think are relevant Melifeather. Is it the crooked stitches and Benjen's description of the Wall? I'm not sure.
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Post by Melifeather on Mar 21, 2016 19:34:56 GMT
Anything you want contributions on. You never know what somebody else knows!
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Post by Melifeather on Mar 21, 2016 22:26:40 GMT
What got me so excited about min 's Hinges of the World essay was a new idea sprang from her words. First min's quotes from Hinges essay: Then what I've added to the Wheel OP: Edited March 21, 2016: New information has come to light suggesting that the Wheel of Time is broken and people are destined to relive past lives. This revelation came during a conversation with min while she was yet working on her Hinges of the World essay. The basic premise is that the Wall's existence is the very meaning of a sword without a hilt. There was no safe way to build it, at least not without consequences. The purpose of the Wall was to contain the Others and their ice magic, but there were side effects. I think most readers agree that the seasons are out of whack due to the Wall. Well, I would also like to suggest that the Wall also broke the Wheel of Time and it's been stuck repeating the same pattern of history where each generation just relives the previous generations, never seeming to make progress, but I believe Bloodraven and the Children believe that Bran will be able to set things right again, and that it why they want him. There is evidence to support this idea that the Wheel is Broken by examining Quaithe's words to Daenerys: Dany’s wrist still tingled where Quaithe had touched her. “Where would you have me go?” she asked. “To go north, you must journey south. To reach the west, you must go east. To go forward you must go back, and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow.”
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Post by Some Pig No Doubt on Mar 22, 2016 14:30:50 GMT
We should have brought some of your message into this thread, because I want to get Some Pig's take on a possible new development. As readers we already suspect that something went awry when the Wall went up as evidenced by the wacky seasons with winters and summers lasting years, but it occurred to me that maybe the Wheel of Time is broke and the current cast of characters are destined to repeat the past lives of their counterparts? Some Pig No Doubt , have you found anything similar in your Dr Strange/Marvel research? Sorry, it's Spring Break week and I'm kindof with not a lot of posting time, but I will say that yes, this is prevalent in Marvel. In fact, probably 90% of Marvel plots involve people jetting back and forth through time and living various lives over and over. Once I am FINALLY unemployed (!!!) and have some uninterrupted time, I will get back to work on the one character in particular that is this going to 11. Not only is he a timelord, but he has split into various incarnations of himself in different time periods and often those incarnations come into conflict with each other - at multiple points through the years, certain versions travel through time to not only try to stop one of the other versions from doing something, but to prevent that other version from springing to existence in the first place. Most time, the splinter personas don't know about each other and don't recognize they are in fact the same main character. It's like the world's biggest split personality and is one of the craziest arcs in the series. Although I've related this arc to one specific person (and it is awwweee-sommmme!), it can be extrapolated to other characters I'm sure.
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Post by Melifeather on Mar 22, 2016 14:42:05 GMT
We should have brought some of your message into this thread, because I want to get Some Pig's take on a possible new development. As readers we already suspect that something went awry when the Wall went up as evidenced by the wacky seasons with winters and summers lasting years, but it occurred to me that maybe the Wheel of Time is broke and the current cast of characters are destined to repeat the past lives of their counterparts? Some Pig No Doubt , have you found anything similar in your Dr Strange/Marvel research? Sorry, it's Spring Break week and I'm kindof with not a lot of posting time, but I will say that yes, this is prevalent in Marvel. In fact, probably 90% of Marvel plots involve people jetting back and forth through time and living various lives over and over. Once I am FINALLY unemployed (!!!) and have some uninterrupted time, I will get back to work on the one character in particular that is this going to 11. Not only is he a timelord, but he has split into various incarnations of himself in different time periods and often those incarnations come into conflict with each other - at multiple points through the years, certain versions travel through time to not only try to stop one of the other versions from doing something, but to prevent that other version from springing to existence in the first place. Most time, the splinter personas don't know about each other and don't recognize they are in fact the same main character. It's like the world's biggest split personality and is one of the craziest arcs in the series. Although I've related this arc to one specific person (and it is awwweee-sommmme!), it can be extrapolated to other characters I'm sure. I've also just posted in Weasel Pie 's Bran the Timelord thread about this idea of the Wheel being broken or at least being messed with. The Wheel of time project is dragging up multiples reliving the same lives, and I think Quaithe's instructions to Dany about going south if she wants to go north, and east if she wants to go west are her way of saying that if Dany wants a different outcome than her past life then she needs to do the opposite of her natural inclination. Bran is either the problem or he's the solution, so I pointed this out to WP in case he can help us out. min is working on a Hinges of the World essay and I think is also looking for clues to tie into some of the same themes. We are doing such exciting work!
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