Anyway, I had a thought. I always thought it was stupid of D&D to eliminate Lady Stoneheart. Awesome character, built-in shock value for the TV audience, plus revenge on the Freys. Kickass really. So why eliminate her?
Because she's Robb, that's why. And an LS/Robb reveal would have taken away too much thunder from the Jon Snow resurrection - people would have guessed he wasn't really dead.
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Last Edit: Apr 10, 2016 15:27:23 GMT by Weasel Pie
Maybe, but if she's Robb that probably kills one of my long held beliefs that when Brienne is supposed to choose between noose and sword that she instead shouts "Stannis". She made Catelyn swear an oath that she would not stand in the way of Brienne killing Stannis, so I believe that is what she says and that Lady Stoneheart lets her go.
LMAO! I had that same thought as I was writing that post, and then second guessed myself. But yes they definitely could. Varamyr didn't kick Thistle out, he just wanted control over her body, not to push her out.
I'm realizing this whole question is a clue, and supposed to make us connect Varamyr/Thistle/Orell's story with Cat/Robb's story. And ultimately Jon's story.
Ten fierce ravens were raking her face with sharp talons and tearing off strips of flesh, leaving deep furrows that ran red with blood. She could taste it on her lips.
She raised her hands to his [their] face. He tried to push them down again, but the hands would not obey, and she was clawing at his [their] eyes. Abomination, he remembered, drowning in blood and pain and madness. When he tried to scream, she spat their tongue out...Pale pink icicles hung from her fingertips, ten long knives of frozen blood. And in the pits where her eyes had been, a pale blue light was flickering
First, he dreams about it
"A dream," said Jon feebly. "I was Ghost, I was on the edge of the mountain looking down on a frozen river, and something attacked me. A bird . . . an eagle, I think . . ."
Then he brings Bran into it
If the dream was true . . . Even the thought scared him. Could the eagle have hurt Ghost, or knocked him off the precipice? And what about the weirwood with his brother's face, that smelled of death and darkness?
The eagle attacks Ghost
Ghost struggled and bared his teeth when Qhorin poured the wine into the ragged red gashes the eagle had left him, but Jon wrapped his arms around him and murmured soothing words, and soon enough the wolf quieted.
The eagle stalks Jon after Orell dies.
Blue-grey feathers filled his eyes, as sharp talons buried themselves in his face. Red pain lanced through him sudden and fierce as pinions beat round his head. He saw the beak, but there was no time to get a hand up or reach for a weapon. Jon reeled backward, his foot lost the stirrup, his garron broke in panic, and then he was falling. And still the eagle clung to his face, its talons tearing at him as it flapped and shrieked and pecked
So yeah, Robb warged Cat. But the significance of this is that Jon's dead body will be warged.
We're meant to make a connection. Thistle fought off a warg. Jon killed a warg, then fought a warged eagle. Cat's son Robb was a warg (we believe). I don't think GRRM does "random" especially not three random events that revolve around wargs, all with specific outcomes.
Bran would warg Jon for the same reason he wargs Hodor. Because he can, and to walk. He has Hodor, why would be want to warg "any dead body"? But if it's Jon? Different story. It's Jon.
Last Edit: Apr 28, 2016 22:16:26 GMT by Weasel Pie