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Post by min on Mar 31, 2022 13:53:54 GMT
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Post by min on Mar 31, 2022 14:32:55 GMT
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Post by min on Mar 31, 2022 15:46:14 GMT
The thing that has always stuck me about Euron is the notion that he isn't always himself. By that I mean, he seems to have two personnae: the smiling blue eye and the crow's eye/blood eye. He seems to signal which eye is present with a red or black eye patch. His damaged eye isn't literally red as far as we know. Theon describes it as black and I'm assuming this is brain damage caused by his fall from the cliffs into the sea; a permanently dilated pupil.
So far, he has been hiding that eye or what lies beneath but in TWOW, he no longers covers that eye as if showing it off for all the world to see. There is no smiling eye any longer; there is only the blood wye, a wholly evil personna.
The Damphair senses the presence of the storm gods through Euron:
So is the Blood Eye actually Euron or something else? The Big Bad that is hidden in the person of Euron?
In Bran Unbound thread, I mention that Martin has written three short storieas which make use of consiousness time travel and the joining of one consciousness to another. We can suspect that this may be happening with Bran in some circumstances; but is he the only one? Is this also happening with Euron and some unkown entity associated with the story/sky gods?
It certainly seems like Euron has been tested and comes up a failed greenseer. Does that mean he couldn't fly and was impaled on a spear of ice in the heart of Winter. Does the soul of ice have some claim on Euron. Did he die in the sea and was he reborn as the Crow's Eye/Blood Eye?
I think it's possible since he wants to be remade a new god. Or whatever inhabits his soul wants the complete destruction of all the gods including the small gods of the forest. They are the watchers on the wall of light that keeps the soul of ice imprisoned.
If this is true can it tell us anything about the nature of whatever it was that Bran saw in the heart of winter/heart of darkness? If Euron has been impaled by a spear of ice and captured in a sense; then this may be the ancient enemy Mel is looking for in her fires but she has not yet seen the physical form it takes.
Does this story start in the heart of darkness in the mysterious lands of Asshai? Or it's outpost - The House of Unying?
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Post by Melifeather on Mar 31, 2022 19:13:02 GMT
The only things I can add are my thoughts regarding the mirrored parallels between Euron and Bloodraven and then Victarion to Bittersteel and the inverted story underneath.
The wheel of time is rolling in reverse and Euron is reprising the role of Bloodraven. Its very much like a play with mummers - think of the characters as actors. It's very telling that they are now calling Euron "Bloodeye" whereas before it was "Crow's Eye". Whenever he is called Crow's Eye he's mirroring Brynden Rivers, but now that he's Bloodeye he's mirroring Bloodraven in the cave.
The throne of black skulls is the reverse of the white bones and skulls that litter the Children's cave. The Dwarves attending him are playing the parts of the Children.
The bleeding star is the comet that indicates that the wheel of time is at the starting point of a new cycle, but because it's running in reverse the world will be remade with Greyjoys replaying the roles of Targaryens and Blackfyres. We will witness the Greyjoys doing similar things as when Aegon the Conqueror brought dragons to Westeros, but it will be mirrored with the opposite result.
Describing Euron as a kraken-like figure with tentacles is a symbolic description of Bloodraven's influence over Westeros. From his weirwood throne the root system has allowed him to go wherever the roots go like tentacles underground.
The remaining mystery in this passage is the long, tall terrible woman, shadowed, with hands of white fire standing next to him. I'll have to contemplate that one to try and figure out who she is...if she's actually a woman. It may be that she symbolizes magic...or the opposite of R'hllor...or the inversion to the godhead. Yeah, I kinda like that last idea, but that implies that the godhead is male...If the gods of ice and fire are opposites, then shouldn't the wolf be female? (the shadow of the wolf that was seen in Mirri's tent.) Wouldn't it align with the story of the Nights King and how he saw the pale Other and took her to wife? The marriage between ice and fire with ice being female and fire being male. R'hllor is male and "the wolf" then would be female....sorry, just spitballing here.
Damphair's memory of Euron and the squeaky hinge has been revealed to be sexual child abuse in the transcripts. Symbolically this is the inversion to what Bloodraven did, but how are we to interpret it? What it does suggest, at least to me, is that Bloodraven is connected to the unraveling and opening of the hinge...and that the raping of children is symbolic of what Bloodraven did to BRAN.
If you want to figure out what Euron's intensions are in this chapter, you can get an idea by looking for parallels to Bloodraven and his attendants the Children, and view Victarion as reliving Aegor "Bittersteel" Rivers. If Dany is the Mother of Dragons and Aegon the Conqueror, then Euron and Victarion are a type of Sixth Blackfyre Rebellion, except everything will be reversed and "Bloodraven" (Euron) has joined forces with "Bittersteel" (Victarion).
Daemon III and Bittersteel crossed the Narrow Sea from the east for the 4th Blackfyre Rebellion and landed on Massey's Hook which protects the Blackwater river on the east side of Westeros, but are ultimately defeated by Aegon V and his sons. Aegon V is the one that sent Bloodraven to the Wall, but he succeeds in putting down the Blackfyres seemingly without Bloodraven's help. Or did he?
The reverse is Victarion (Bittersteel) landing on the Shield Islands which protect the Mander river on the west side of Westeros. Euron takes a fleet west across the Sunset Sea to bring the "Blackfyre rebellion" to Daenerys Targaryen. As impossible as it may seem, this time the "Blackfyres" will succeed in defeating OR joining forces with the Targaryens, and this time they will have the dragons. They say the Golden Company has broken their contract...did they? Are they pretending to be on Dany's side, or are they really on Euron's side? The Golden Company has always supported the Blackfyre cause, so I think we will see a betrayal...the one for gold. Finally, I expect Euron to attack Westeros from the west since the Iron Islands are the inversion to Dragonstone.
There will be a reversal of conquests. Westeros is reversing back to the Dawn of Days to ground zero, so to speak.
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Post by Melifeather on Mar 31, 2022 19:19:45 GMT
Euron has both Aeron and Fallys tied to his prow - and Fallys is pregnant.
We can try to work this through if we replace:
Euron = Bloodraven Victarion = Bittersteel Aeron Damhair = Daemon Blackfyre
Initially I had thought Aeron was mirroring maester Aemon, but Daemon fits better. The "priest" figure needed to be another Blackfyre and Daemon fits both descriptions. He's the illegitimate son of King Aegon IV and Princess Daena Targaryen, who was married to King Baelor the Blessed. Daena became pregnant while locked in the Maidenvault.
King Aegon IV's legitimate son, Daeron could also be the "priest" figure because he was known as being "pious". He too is half-brother to Bloodraven and Bittersteal. King Aegon IV used to threaten that he would crown the bastard Daemon over the legitimate heir Daeron, because he suspected Daeron was actually the illegitimate son of his brother Aemon the Dragonknight.
Pregnant Fallys might be Princess Daena who somehow got pregnant in the Maidenvault. Although it would be better if we could uncover a bastard female like Shiera, although it's never said she was pregnant.
I was thinking on pregnant Fallys and it struck me that Euron plans to recreate the blood magic ritual. He needs a priest and a woman about to deliver. He wants to conjure the great wolf and fire spirits.
Mirri's tent ritual brought forth the spirits of wolf and flame. She sacrificed Drogo's stallion and Dany lost Rhaego. The end result was a half baked resurrection, but I think it also set the stage for Dany when she setup Drogo's funeral pyre and hatched dragons. The two magical rites may need to be performed sequentially.A similar rite happened at Summerhal, on the other hand had some type of fire that killed Aegon, Ser Duncan, and Jenny of Oldstones. Somehow Rhaella escaped harm, as did her newborn son Rhaegar.
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