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Post by ac on Aug 28, 2016 2:11:16 GMT
No pressure then. Like I said on the other thread it is slow going and I am anything but a natural writer. Sorry mate! Didn't mean you have to come up with a full blown essay or anything of the like. Just mean if you jot down your thoughts and how you got to there is enough. No need to be formal or anything of the kind. Look at how your Did GRRM Lie thread took off! (Which I am yet to finish, btw! Sheesh I take a little break to deal with real life stuff and now I'm days behind!)Haha, no worries. I was only joking about the pressure, but will try to get something out when I get a chance.
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Post by min on Aug 28, 2016 17:30:09 GMT
Why don't we call it Weapons of Ice and Fire.
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Post by Ser Duncan on Aug 28, 2016 18:12:53 GMT
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Post by min on Aug 29, 2016 2:43:47 GMT
This is a odd statement by Jaime. Catelyn is questioning him when he is captive at Riverrun and they are exchanging truths. He tells her what he witnessed of Brandon and Rickard's deaths.
After Gerold Hightower himself took me aside and said to me, "You swore a vow to guard the king, not to judge him." That was the White Bull, loyal to the end and a better man than me, all agree."
"Aerys ..." Catelyn could taste bile at the back of her throat. The story was so hideous she suspected it had to e true. "Aerys was mad the whole realm knew it, but if you would have me believe you slew him to avenge Brandon Stark ..."
"I made no such claim. The Starks were nothing to me. I will say, I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act.
"I've never lain with any woman but Cersei. In my own way, I have been truer than your Ned ever was. Poor old dead Ned. So who has shit for honor now, I ask you? What was the name of that bastard he fathered?
Catelyn took a step backward. "Brienne."
"No, that wasn't it." Jamie Lannister upended the flagon. A trickle ran down onto his face, bright as blood. "Snow that was the one. Such a white name ... like the pretty cloaks they give us in the Kingsguard when we swear our pretty oaths."
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Post by min on Nov 25, 2016 4:42:23 GMT
I found some interesting stuff that might say something about the Fisherman's Daughter story. I think Jon knows something on a subconscious level; that he may have gleaned some informaton from his dreams. I'm also not sure if it's Ned who is giving him the dreams. Recall that Bran and Rickon have the same dream of their father in the crypts and Jon's recurring dreams of going down to the crypts.
In one of Ned's dreams of Lyanna, she weeps tears of blood;
The eyes weeping blood is mirrored in Jon's dream of Gilly as well as a baby swap;
Jon has sent Sam (who will be a maester) away with Gilly (a nursemaid) after swapping out the King's baby to send them into hiding and safe keeping. Rumors of the storm at Eastwatch, the drowning of the maester, Jon singing the Dornishman's Daughter out of the blue while he watches Rattleshirt (glamored as Mance) burned to death (Brandon and Rickard?).
This all echos back to the story of the Fisherman's daughter and Bran's comment that he spoke with his father in his dream of the crypt and it was more disturbing than anything he had dreamed before. They talked about Jon. I think Jon as the 3EC talked with his father as well and like Bran some of his dreams are half remembered or forgotten when he wakes.
Are some of the details spilling out with Sam and Gilly's baby swap?
In another of Ned's dreams of the crown of blue roses; he has blood on his hands and Lyanna weeps blood, just like Gilly.
What do you make of it?
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Post by Melifeather on Nov 25, 2016 16:21:07 GMT
Didn't we talk about the song once before? Isn't the song about a Fisherman's wife and how he killed her with a blade? We need the lyrics...
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Post by min on Nov 25, 2016 16:22:37 GMT
Didn't we talk about the song once before? Isn't the song about a Fisherman's wife and how he killed her with a blade? We need the lyrics... I don't have a memory any more. LOL Jon sings the Dornishman's wife at Rattleshirts execution: A Dance with Dragons - Jon III Brothers, oh brothers, my days here are done, the Dornishman's taken my life, But what does it matter, for all men must die, and I've tasted the Dornishman's wife!
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Post by Melifeather on Nov 25, 2016 16:29:10 GMT
Didn't we talk about the song once before? Isn't the song about a Fisherman's wife and how he killed her with a blade? We need the lyrics... I don't have a memory any more. LOL Jon sings the Dornishman's wife at Rattleshirts execution: A Dance with Dragons - Jon III Brothers, oh brothers, my days here are done, the Dornishman's taken my life, But what does it matter, for all men must die, and I've tasted the Dornishman's wife! Thank you! No wonder I couldn't find it! lol I mix the two things as well: Fisherman's daughter and Dornishman's wife. Mance is the one that changes the words of Dornishman's wife to Northman's daughter, right?
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Post by min on Nov 25, 2016 16:35:52 GMT
I don't have a memory any more. LOL Jon sings the Dornishman's wife at Rattleshirts execution: A Dance with Dragons - Jon III Brothers, oh brothers, my days here are done, the Dornishman's taken my life, But what does it matter, for all men must die, and I've tasted the Dornishman's wife! Thank you! No wonder I couldn't find it! lol I mix the two things as well: Fisherman's daughter and Dornishman's wife. Mance is the one that changes the words of Dornishman's wife to Northman's daughter, right? He did? You've got me. I don't know.
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