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Post by Melifeather on Aug 24, 2016 2:56:43 GMT
I believe Euron is a major player. I'm just not sure what Marwyn is up to. As for Balon...didn't Euron kill him? I hadn't remembered that line to Pate. It would seem a reread is in order!
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Post by min on Aug 24, 2016 3:08:10 GMT
I believe Euron is a major player. I'm just not sure what Marwyn is up to. As for Balon...didn't Euron kill him? I hadn't remembered that line to Pate. It would seem a reread is in order! LOL! I think the book version and show version are different regarding Balon. Also consider that when Victarion leaves with his fleet; they fly the Kraken banner. When Sam shows up at Oldtown, he sees Euron's personal banner on a wrecked longboat, one he doesn't recognize. That pretty much places Euron at Oldtown. Just as Marwyn is needing a fast ship. Coincidence? Euron is supposed to be sitting this one out, at Pyke.
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Post by Melifeather on Aug 24, 2016 10:37:33 GMT
The book's version of Balon's death doesn't explicitly name Euron, but Euron shows up the next day so we're supposed to make the connection between the two events.
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Post by min on Aug 24, 2016 11:16:38 GMT
The Ghost of Highheart dreams about Renly's shadow baby; the faceless man and Lady Stoneheart.
The old gods stir and will not let me sleep. I dreamt I saw a shadow with a burning heart butchering a golden stag, aye. I dreamt of a man without a face, waiting on a bridge that swayed and swung. On his shoulder perched a drowned crow with seaweed hanging from his wings. I dreamt of a roaring river and a woman that was a fish. Dead she drifted, with red tears on her cheeks, but when her eyes did open, oh, I woke from terror. All this I dreamt, and more.
In another encounter with Arya; she says the King is dead, the wet one.
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Post by Melifeather on Aug 24, 2016 12:09:38 GMT
The faceless man had a drowned crow with seaweed hanging from his wings perched on his shoulder. The crow is obviously Euron, but whether he paid a Faceless Man or he brought the storm that caused Balon to fall isn't clear. IIRC Euron refers to himself as being the first and last storm.
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Post by min on Aug 24, 2016 12:51:44 GMT
Or the drowned crow is perched on the FM's shoulder watching by other means.
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Post by Maester Flagons on Aug 25, 2016 1:45:04 GMT
Just you wait, unbelievers. Two years ago, I said Euron was a badass and a major player and nobody believed me then. Euron isn't sitting at home on the throne waiting for his ridiculous brother Victarion to go out collect his 'bride' for him and bring him the dragons. He's on his way to Qarth to the House of Urrathon Night-Walker with his wing man Marwyn perched in the crow's nest. Victarion is a diversion but he's too dumb to know it. It sounds like Moqorro is there to screw up the best laid plans. Marwyn is one of those characters that we know only by two degrees of separation. The best liars include a certain amount of truth in their stories. Aemon never mentions Marwyn. He thinks he's going to meet someone else. Yet Sam is basically intercepted and then told to keep his mouth shut or his own life could be at stake. Marwyn is closted in his chambers with a faceless man while listening in on Sam's talk with Alleras. I find that a bit suspicious, since the Alchemist is probably the same FM who killed Balon. If you recall Jaqen telling Arya that once given a name; that person will die at some point; whether that's now or a year from now. When Marwyn leaves he tells Pate the FM "to take care of this one." That's a bit ominous. I have no doubt about Euron stepping up to be a major protagonist. He is in the right places at the worst of times. The thing is, I don't see Marwyn under his wings. Euron doesn't work with magicians or scholars, he enslaves and butchers them. I think Marwyn has his own agendas like so many others - Bloodraven/the cotf, Melisandre and her crowd, the Faceless Men, the free folk, etc. Where these other players want to use their own brand of magic and knowledge, Euron wants to enslave and abuse all other sources, i.e. funnel the powers through his thralls. What I found I most interesting at the end of Feast is Sam's dislike for Pate. Sam is put off by Pate when he shows Sam his quarters. I think this is because Sam can somewhat see through the facade. And if Sam can, then Marwyn might be able to to see through it too. Marwyn's bets are left open: I see that he is a wild card, but I think he is playing his own game.
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