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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 6, 2016 18:06:51 GMT
Also Melissa and Melantha sure sound like names give to sisters - or even twins. Yes I'm quoting myself. And Melisandre.I had a not-very-well-thought-through idea that the greenseer "gene" was hereditary but that it can lay dormant for generations and then appear again. Like they say about red hair (although I don't actually know if that's true!). Also brings to mind when they say that they been waiting for him for 200 years. Did they mean they were waiting specifically for Bran or for the greenseer "gene" to resurface again. Completely reasonable IMO. It's obvious there are degrees of Stark/Wargness genes. And it's obvious that Bloodraven got his powers through the Blackwood line - although it may have been the combination with his Targ genes that made him unique. So, Bran needed his unique combo of genes as well.
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Post by min on Aug 6, 2016 18:43:53 GMT
Does anyone remember who asks Ned if there can be honor in a lie? Bran? Jon?
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Post by Ser Duncan on Aug 6, 2016 18:53:15 GMT
Does anyone remember who asks Ned if there can be honor in a lie? Bran? Jon? Arya. Just after she confesses to Ned that she had to shout and throw sticks at Nymeria to get her to flee.
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Post by ac on Aug 6, 2016 21:40:23 GMT
I had a not-very-well-thought-through idea that the greenseer "gene" was hereditary but that it can lay dormant for generations and then appear again. Like they say about red hair (although I don't actually know if that's true!). Also brings to mind when they say that they been waiting for him for 200 years. Did they mean they were waiting specifically for Bran or for the greenseer "gene" to resurface again. Completely reasonable IMO. It's obvious there are degrees of Stark/Wargness genes. And it's obvious that Bloodraven got his powers through the Blackwood line - although it may have been the combination with his Targ genes that made him unique. So, Bran needed his unique combo of genes as well. Probably random, but I found it interesting that the Blackwoods are originally from the Wolfswood and in ASOS Bran 1 he considers himself "prince of the green, prince of the wolfswood".
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 6, 2016 23:54:46 GMT
the Blackwoods are originally from the Wolfswood and in ASOS Bran 1 he considers himself "prince of the green, prince of the wolfswood". great catches all around! This might deserve a thread sometime.
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Post by ac on Aug 7, 2016 0:14:37 GMT
the Blackwoods are originally from the Wolfswood and in ASOS Bran 1 he considers himself "prince of the green, prince of the wolfswood". great catches all around! This might deserve a thread sometime. Just to add to that I was reading about the Wolfswood on the Westeros wiki and found this statement: Weirwoods are occasionally found isolated or in pairs [in the Wolfswood]I don't have the exact quote to place that in context but a possible suggestion that those with the greenseer gene usually are born in isolation but occasionally in pairs. Also, has anyone ever speculated on the dead weirwood in Raventree Hall?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 7, 2016 0:56:27 GMT
Weirwoods are occasionally found isolated or in pairs [in the Wolfswood]I don't have the exact quote to place that in context but a possible suggestion that those with the greenseer gene usually are born in isolation but occasionally in pairs. And that would be very accurate IMO since greenseers are so rare. Nice one! I haven't had a chance to read up more of the Wolfswood, specifically any of Bran's experiences there, in more detail but I will. Also, has anyone ever speculated on the dead weirwood in Raventree Hall? Not me, let's see what these good folks can come up with. I'll be moving the discussion of the Blackwoods and related responses to a new thread tomorrow.
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Post by Melifeather on Aug 7, 2016 2:54:58 GMT
A greenseer has no concept of time. He's the acorn, sapling, tree, and stump. Bloodraven could have seen Bran coming from watching 200 years of weirwood tree memories, even if he's not quite a hundred years old himself.
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Post by min on Aug 7, 2016 10:55:27 GMT
Arya. Just after she confesses to Ned that she had to shout and throw sticks at Nymeria to get her to flee. excellent! thank you
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Post by ac on Aug 9, 2016 3:53:26 GMT
Weirwoods are occasionally found isolated or in pairs [in the Wolfswood]I don't have the exact quote to place that in context but a possible suggestion that those with the greenseer gene usually are born in isolation but occasionally in pairs. And that would be very accurate IMO since greenseers are so rare. Nice one! I haven't had a chance to read up more of the Wolfswood, specifically any of Bran's experiences there, in more detail but I will. I agree that is that rare now (one of my first posts was about the fact I think the Age of Heroes = Age of Human Greenseers). If this is what that passage means then maybe we have an as-yet unidentified greenseer to come. Bran already opened Jon's 3rd eye?
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Post by min on Aug 13, 2016 12:33:40 GMT
Does anyone know how old Hodor is or how many years ago it was when he went into the crypts and came out saying Hodor?
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Post by Weasel Pie on Aug 13, 2016 12:49:48 GMT
Does anyone know how old Hodor is or how many years ago it was when he went into the crypts and came out saying Hodor? It's never explicit in the book, but the mummer's show portrays Hodor being "of an age" with Ned and Lyanna. BookNed was 36 when he died, and a teenager in the tv-scene shown, so according the show, Hodor's hodoring happened a bit over 20 years ago. (Although the show takes some liberties). But as I said, Hodor's age is never said outright in the books. If Nan is his great-grandmother and Hodor is mid-thirties, she would be in her 90's, maybe 100+ - which does fit with the narrative. Also Hodor has a brown beard in the novels, not grey as in the show, which is another point towards him being mid-thirties and not terribly older. As an aside, I've always believed Hodor was near in age to Ned and Lyanna.
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Post by min on Aug 13, 2016 12:55:39 GMT
Does anyone know how old Hodor is or how many years ago it was when he went into the crypts and came out saying Hodor? It's never explicit in the book, but the mummer's show portrays Hodor being "of an age" with Ned and Lyanna. BookNed was 36 when he died, and a teenager in the tv-scene shown, so according the show, Hodor's hodoring happened a bit over 20 years ago. (Although the show takes some liberties). But as I said, Hodor's age is never said outright in the books. If Nan is his great-grandmother and Hodor is mid-thirties, she would be in her 90's, maybe 100+ - which does fit with the narrative. Also Hodor has a brown beard in the novels, not grey as in the show, which is another point towards him being mid-thirties and not terribly older. As an aside, I've always believed Hodor was near in age to Ned and Lyanna. Cheers! I am going to copy your post to the Hodor thread in a moment.
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Post by jnr on Aug 13, 2016 14:14:00 GMT
Does anyone know how old Hodor is or how many years ago it was when he went into the crypts and came out saying Hodor? Beyond what Weasel said, it's not established in canon that this is where Hodor started Hodoring.
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Post by min on Aug 13, 2016 14:17:21 GMT
Does anyone know how old Hodor is or how many years ago it was when he went into the crypts and came out saying Hodor? Beyond what Weasel said, it's not established in canon that this is where Hodor started Hodoring. It's hard to find anything that's canon on the mysterious questions other than tangential stuff and circumstantial evidence.
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